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It's true, Toyota quality has slipped... big time.
So I've had a week to live with it and put about 400 miles on the odometer. I'm still disappointed with the interior fit and finish, but I am happy with the performance. (I even managed to get my first speeding tkt in 15 years in it last week ) It's no Challenger, but it was about 1/2 the price, is more reliable, the 6 cyl. is silky smooth and it has some decent "oomph", expecially for a family car.
I kinda like being low-key after driving my FJ everywhere too. I guess I'll be OK... the buyer's remorse has passed. Still, that's the last time I make assumptions about ANY car brand.
It's half the price with none of the headaches, that's what people buy them for. Your right there cookie cutter cars with reliabilty and economy built in. Many folks that have them have another vehicle with a little more pizazz, but use the reliable toyota/honda for the bulk of there transportation needs. It works out a lot cheaper that way.
It's half the price with none of the headaches, that's what people buy them for. Your right there cookie cutter cars with reliabilty and economy built in. Many folks that have them have another vehicle with a little more pizazz, but use the reliable toyota/honda for the bulk of there transportation needs. It works out a lot cheaper that way.
I have 3 vehicles with pizazz and a Lincoln Town Car (which also has pizazz) for the bulk of my transportation needs. I don't need a Toyota/Honda!
That's why I own 2 Cadillacs, a Lincoln and a 1960s Plymouth. I get to enjoy very good reliability and longevity but I am not driving a cookie-cutter, egg-shaped car.[/quote]
Yea, but Pizazz, that 1960 plymouth better be somethan special, sounds to me like you just got a bunch of gas guzzlers. Should have made a deal when the cash for clunkers was rolling.
The mid-90s Camry was by far and away the best car Toyota ever made. I wouldn't mind having one of those today.
I will second that. An ex-girlfriend of mine had a '92 Camry LE, and five years ago, while changing the oil, a mechanic said a piece of metal came out of the oil pan and that the car wouldn't last another month. Five years later its still running with 250k+ miles on it.
A coworker of mine has a '96 LE with almost 290k on it still kicking. I think that the next generation began to lose quality although the drivetrain was still the same. I wasn't a fan of them when they began to bloat up.
Yea, but Pizazz, that 1960 plymouth better be somethan special, sounds to me like you just got a bunch of gas guzzlers.
I see them as classic cars, not gas guzzlers. BTW, they get the same or better fuel mileage than some of the bigger modern trucks and SUVs. You must not be familiar with classic cars... they are very fun to own and drive! It's not a 1960 Plymouth, it's a 1966 Plymouth Fury VIP. With 383-4 bbl, factory dual exhaust, A/C and power steering/brakes/windows. It even has rear reading lights, big & comfortable seats (try finding that in a modern car!) and chrome all over the place... even on the inside of the "A" pillar.
Also, what about the quite a few modern cars which are "gas guzzlers?" You do realize that there are cars made today which are classified as such?
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Should have made a deal when the cash for clunkers was rolling.
I will assume you are joking. These cars are a part of Americana. When car stylists, not the government, designed cars. When cars had whitewall tires, chrome bumpers, and not an all-plastic interior. Which is probably why good examples of the cars I own are worth about $7,000 to $20,000+.
Drover I'd send you some rep points, but they sat I gota spread the love before I can hit you up.
Why rep him? A Lincoln Town Car does have a certain amount of pizazz... body-on-frame construction, 6-passenger capability, nice thick leather seats, many luxury features, an actual full-sized car (218.9"). Don't forget that many are converted into limousines.
A lot more pizazz than many other cars I can name.
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It's true, Toyota quality has slipped... big time.
) It's no Challenger, but it was about 1/2 the price, is more reliable, the 6 cyl. is silky smooth and it has some decent "oomph", expecially for a family car. 
