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Yep;if anyone paid attention during the NSTB during their testimoney to congress they showed reports that showed that the number reported fro all makes that Toyota was not any more than other makes. Of course this didn't set too well with the speical interest funded congressman. Anyone remmeber the Ford rear fires on crown Vics;ford curse control fire or the exploer rollover. Took years and yet ford never admitted to afult. Police Crowns had rear atnk gauard installed after the reports but Frod did nothing about the consumer models. Politics in action.
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ALL? Proof? All handled in the same botched way Toyota handled it? Nice try.
why am i not surprised to see you here? and he's asking for proof nonetheless. can't provide any to back up his "opinions", but requires it off others.
folks now he's going to resort to name calling and insullts.
so mr. steve, shall we begin? which name do you want to call me first? or maybe a broad statement insulting my intelligence?
NASA tested 9 cars, and stated they did not find any electronic faults in those nine cars. Pretty small sample. Toyota, of course, runs with it and says that means there are no problems at all. Are there problems of the electronic type? Perhaps not. At best, it's still a ****-poor pedal design.
Blah blah blah. Should all we join in and post stories about someone dying in some car due to some sort of defect? You know this happens to all manufacturers right? If you're concerned with that particular issue go start a new thread about it, this one is about a failed witch hunt where the "culprit" didn't actually do anything wrong.
I'll spell it out for you:
It does happen to all manufacturers, but the point is Toyota is up on charges for hiding the evidence and not recalling vehicles when they should. They knew they had sticky pedals and didn't recall them either that's why they got fined. If it were a "failed witchhunt" then the US Gov would be paying Toyota back the money they fined them.
They haven't. Because the "culprit" did do something wrong. The article I posted, which you obviously didn't read, illustrates an example of how their hiding defects caused a fatality and didn't involve someone stacking up floormats, or pressing the gas instead of the brake. If you can't see how that is pertinent and on topic for this discussion you are just another person with blinders on whom I won't waste time talking to.
I will spell it out for you they basically were fined on a witch hunt by the same pressure shown in the congressional hearing. Basically the government found no evicence of what they fined Toyota for and it was pretty much a lynching. Toyota did not contest the fine because of a business decision. It was a controlled demopcratic hering whch is clearly controlled by the same UAW that helped wrecked the US based auto industry.No one is really fooled here that this has proven a political witch hunt with the UAW right in the thick of it. Its a disgrace to every american who believes in fairness;plain and simple.The report is clear they foud nothig tat caused it but just gave what could have whcih was not evidenced by any founding of actual fact.Even the NTSB had said that they had no reason to originally start a investigation than any other makers complains of unintended acceelration when the hearing first started.By your standards of proof all auto companies should be fined for the same thing.
Let's not forget that we have a governmental department/agency that knows what is going on at the factories, with customer complaints, manufacturing problems, etc., etc. and it is this agency that determines when the public is alerted about problems and if recalls are made. Toyota withheld (or covered) no information.
That is actually incorrect. It is the responsibility of the automaker to alert NHTSA of any potential issues when they are discovered through their own internal data collection and warranty processes. NHTSA only collects consumer complaints and intitiates an investigation when enough complaints emerge.
In this case with Toyota, they had enough statistical data related to sticking pedals and floormats to be required to initiate an investigation, but they failed to do so.
That failure is what they were fined for.
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