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Old 04-16-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Look how low the front end is to the ground. No wonder I hear so many of those and similar cars scraping when leaving driveways!
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:57 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The reason none if it looks like it fits right is because Toyota is recycling the same Camry since 2006. The hard points and roof line are identical so Toyota is tasked with wildly changing bumper cover and taillight designs for the past many years to hide the fact that they aren't willing to invest in a truly new car. Why would they given the number of suckers who buy these annually? This is a tactic largely used by domestic makes in the past and ultimately resulted in failure.
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Old 04-16-2014, 02:41 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The reason none if it looks like it fits right is because Toyota is recycling the same Camry since 2006. The hard points and roof line are identical so Toyota is tasked with wildly changing bumper cover and taillight designs for the past many years to hide the fact that they aren't willing to invest in a truly new car. Why would they given the number of suckers who buy these annually? This is a tactic largely used by domestic makes in the past and ultimately resulted in failure.
You're complaining about the look, toyota does not have the poor reliability track record of domestic car companies. People will continue to buy their appliances.

While people love VWs but few can stand behind their reliability just ask their owners about VW customer service dept.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:06 PM
 
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Please Toyota, give up on that horrid grille. They are doing the same thing to their Lexus models. I simply will not buy one of their cars with it. Shame because I liked the new Lexus IS otherwise.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:06 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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You're complaining about the look, toyota does not have the poor reliability track record of domestic car companies. People will continue to buy their appliances.

While people love VWs but few can stand behind their reliability just ask their owners about VW customer service dept.
There are plenty of reliable competitors. Unless Toyota changes something soon they are traveling down the same path of American automakers in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. My complaint starts with the visuals because they are an obvious sign of how little Toyota is investing into this car. It's essentially the same car they first introduced in 2006 and it falls behind everyone in terms of engine technology (no direct injection, no turbocharging) and transmissions (its the same story with the Corolla as Toyota is still chugging along with an old 4 speed transmission). If you're ok with paying a new car price for an old dated car, then sure be my guest. Let's pull out some other old cars from several generations ago, change the headlights, slap the model year 2015 on them and call it a day!
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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There are plenty of reliable competitors. Unless Toyota changes something soon they are traveling down the same path of American automakers in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. My complaint starts with the visuals because they are an obvious sign of how little Toyota is investing into this car. It's essentially the same car they first introduced in 2006 and it falls behind everyone in terms of engine technology (no direct injection, no turbocharging) and transmissions (its the same story with the Corolla as Toyota is still chugging along with an old 4 speed transmission). If you're ok with paying a new car price for an old dated car, then sure be my guest. Let's pull out some other old cars from several generations ago, change the headlights, slap the model year 2015 on them and call it a day!
The 90's era Camrys and Corollas were already the perfect appliance car that were high quality, low cost, would go forever with no hassles and give no surprises. The technology has plateaued. The last thing a typical Camry buyer needs (or wants) is turbo or direct injection; they just want the engine to fire up every morning and get them to work.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Toyota wants to get their 'best-selling car in America' sales crown back after the Accord outsold it in 2013 for the first time in over a decade based on sales to individuals as opposed to fleet sales as the sharpies at Bloomberg pointed out back in January; Americans purchased 360,089 Accords last year according to data from IHS Automotive's Pol unit, out of a total of 366,678 sold including fleet sales.

Toyota spokeswoman Amanda Rice confirmed that 342,007 out of the 408,484 Camrys sold last year were to retail buyers, although the Camry remained #1 in combined retail and fleet sales for the 12th consecutive year.

The Bloomberg article also pointed out that sales to individuals comprised almost 98% of the sales of the Accord last year as opposed to 84% of Camry sales.

The Accord was also tops in resale value among mid-size cars last year according to both Kelley Blue Book and ALG, a company based in Santa Barbara which calculates such data; toss in the fact that the Camry didn't make the top three in either survey, and that certainly alarmed lots of Toyota execs as well.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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The 90's era Camrys and Corollas were already the perfect appliance car that were high quality, low cost, would go forever with no hassles and give no surprises. The technology has plateaued. The last thing a typical Camry buyer needs (or wants) is turbo or direct injection; they just want the engine to fire up every morning and get them to work.
Yeah, grandma had a '93 Camry V6. Great car. Looked better than any Camry made in the last 10 years. Sure it was boring. Boring is good. See the Passat. Very boring. If it weren't for the reliability aspect, I'd go for it.
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Old 04-16-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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The 2015 is ugly! I will wait until Honda restyles the Accord to buy a new car!
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