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The 90's era Camrys and Corollas were already the perfect appliance car that were high quality, low cost, would go forever with no hassles and give no surprises. The technology has plateaued. The last thing a typical Camry buyer needs (or wants) is turbo or direct injection; they just want the engine to fire up every morning and get them to work.
They certainly do want it, they just don't know what they are missing because perception has not caught on with reality. If everyone is offering modern drivetrains there is zero excuse for being the odd man out unless of course the excuse is saving money. Toyota isn't carrying on with ancient drivetrains and platforms for the good of the consumer, they are doing it for their own short term benefit.
Please Toyota, give up on that horrid grille. They are doing the same thing to their Lexus models. I simply will not buy one of their cars with it. Shame because I liked the new Lexus IS otherwise.
I agree... that lower grill is terrible - way to large - it reminds me of the ugly Sonata Hybrid grill. Audi has also went with a hideous huge grill on its latest models.
I agree with others about the c-pillar as well... why not put a real window there?
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Originally Posted by Chango
The 90's era Camrys and Corollas were already the perfect appliance car that were high quality, low cost, would go forever with no hassles and give no surprises. The technology has plateaued. The last thing a typical Camry buyer needs (or wants) is turbo or direct injection; they just want the engine to fire up every morning and get them to work.
Absolutely. The mid 80s-mid 90s Toyotas were high quality - interiors were high quality materials and fit-n-finish was excellent. Some of the newer models are still lacking (like the Venza), but the latest Camry and Corolla seem to now have a high quality interior again. The late 2000s (2005-2010) Toyotas were terrible.
So they are redesigning the Camry already after 3 years? or is it just that particular trim line? but yeah it's hideous front and back. I have to disagree with everyone saying people buying Toyotas just want reliability and screw looks um that would be the corolla. I'm sorry but for me 30k for a xle is not cheap and although it is not a lexus, it's not a Mitsubishi lancer for heaven sakes.
Toyota under Akio has gone from bland to ghastly. These gaping maw front ends proliferating throughout the Toyota and Lexus lineup look like an afterthought; they don't mesh with anything behind the A-pillar. There is a visual dishonesty having a massive mesh grille when the actual opening for the lower air dam is a tiny slit. Good designers adhere to the mantra form follows function, something Toyota seems to be lacking these days.
After all the pot shots Chrysler got for blacking out the C-pillar on the Sebring / 200 to make it look thinner, I can't believe Toyota just did the same thing. It looks terrible.
Looks like some young kid drawing cartoon cars had a hand in the design. It literally looks like its one of those lowered Hondas with the giant guppy front air deflectors.
The Camry is the best-selling car for twelve years straight... and this writer says Toyota is in a "precarious position"?
I'm sure Ford, Chevy and Nissan wish they were that precarious.
I guess when a writer can't find anything newsworthy, they feel they have to make something up.
BTW, will cars sold in San Diego get the same front snowplow that that one has? Why?
Best selling car, yes, but it's not news that the Camry has been struggling and Toyota has been piling on incentives to move them off the lots. Best seller doesn't mean much if you are losing market share and your average transaction prices are among the lowest in the segment.
I wish they would show photos of the models that will sell in higher volume, such as the LE or even the XLE. All automakers always seem to give the first look using the "sportiest" versions.
I wonder if the grill on the LE will be toned down?
I wish they would show photos of the models that will sell in higher volume, such as the LE or even the XLE. All automakers always seem to give the first look using the "sportiest" versions.
I wonder if the grill on the LE will be toned down?
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