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I've owned many brands of cars: Dodge, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Volkwagen. I do "required maintenance" on them all by the book. Only the Toyota Highlander hasn't had an "oops" happen to it. The others (even an older Camry) had something go wrong. This Highlander has been flawless.
That's why I said Toyota isn't any better built than other makers. Automation has taken human deviation out of quality control. It's up to how things are designed now and not how they are assembled
That's why I said Toyota isn't any better built than other makers. Automation has taken human deviation out of quality control. It's up to how things are designed now and not how they are assembled
Yeah, I guess I just don't understand then. If it's automation and assembly, why are some of the other cars horrible?
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I'm confused. As the owner of a 2000 Tacoma I can tell you first hand that Tacomas don't have a "Steering Box". They have rack and pinion steering and a brand new rack is under $350 if you do the work yourself.
If you let Toyota do it i'm sure it's not more than a couple of hours as it's easy to remove with just a couple of bolts once the skid plate is out of the way.
If someone quoted you $4800 they didn't want to do the work
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I bought a used Tacoma last year ($900) to haul wood at at my cabin. Had 565k miles on it when I bought. Runs and drives so well that I drive it most of the time I'm at my cabin. Just turned 600k miles. It was warm last Friday and I turned on the AC. Worked like new.
My 2012 Kia Sportage with 110,000 miles has cost me about $4800 so far, which includes normal wear items such as tires, brake pads, battery, etc. It is still in fantastic shape and, I'm sure, capable of another 100,000 miles easily. No one service has ever exceeded $500. I traded in a 2006 Toyota Solara SLE-V6 that, at just a bit over 40,000 miles, was burning through a quart of oil every 1000 miles.
My 2015 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner TRD with 40,000 miles, has already cost me $1100 for regular maintenance. The oil and filter changes are free for life. The last service was over $600 because it required a complete front brake service (new rotors, pads, and fluid) and four-wheel alignment (recommended for every 15,000 miles).
This seems to be in line with my experience with previous Toyotas: oil consumption, alignments that don't hold, premature tire wear, brake rotors that seem to easily warp and pads that don't wear well.
1pair of brakes / rotors at 90k ordered the oem parts myself $350 in parts, 90 something labor at jiffy lube. all other work is dealer work, but dealer prices was outrageous and wanted to turn original rotors for same price I could buy new rotors for. threw old ones out.
engine air filters every 60k
plugs / coolant at 100k / manual gear lube flush + cleaned the air sensor in airbox thing (my request on the manual gear lube)
oil every 10k. (40 bucks, includes car wash and free food/drinks)
not a single repair has been needed. Pretty sure its going to go to 200k on original clutch. I'll probably rebuild the engine/clutch if they ever go honestly. cars been paid off since day 1. and 20 bucks a month insurance and it sips gas lol.
I had a 2006 Toyota Sienna. The dash cracked all over after just 3.5 years. Out of warranty. The dealer said it was a design issue but out of warranty. My 06 Camry had all four motor mounts break, steering repairs were 1200 dollars, charcol filter failed, 500 dollars, The car hs 55,000 miles on it and I was surprised about the motor mounts and steering repairs.
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Here's what bothers me:
My 2012 Kia Sportage with 110,000 miles has cost me about $4800 so far, which includes normal wear items such as tires, brake pads, battery, etc. It is still in fantastic shape and, I'm sure, capable of another 100,000 miles easily. No one service has ever exceeded $500. I traded in a 2006 Toyota Solara SLE-V6 that, at just a bit over 40,000 miles, was burning through a quart of oil every 1000 miles.
My 2015 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner TRD with 40,000 miles, has already cost me $1100 for regular maintenance. The oil and filter changes are free for life. The last service was over $600 because it required a complete front brake service (new rotors, pads, and fluid) and four-wheel alignment (recommended for every 15,000 miles).
This seems to be in line with my experience with previous Toyotas: oil consumption, alignments that don't hold, premature tire wear, brake rotors that seem to easily warp and pads that don't wear well.
Do the math - that Tacoma is a lot cheaper to maintain than the Kia.
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