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Old 11-30-2021, 08:13 AM
 
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I just saw the 2022 tundra and I hate it. The design stinks IMO. I think the interior is nice and I'm sure the new drive train will be solid from a reliability standpoint but I feel like they dropped the ball big time on the exterior. I actually cancelled my allocation and got my deposit back.

Even with this refresh, I still don't think Toyota is up to par with the big 3 and an additional 3-4 mpg from the 2021 isnt enough to warrant a replacement at over $10k more than last years model. Easy Pass.
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Old 12-03-2021, 06:01 AM
 
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Default fuel economy

It's taking a long time to release the fuel economy figures for the 2022 Tundra. I'm wondering if they will be similar to the Tacoma figures.

MPG - combined city/hwy
21 2022 Toyota Tacoma 2WD 2.7 L, 4 cyl, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline
21 2022 Toyota Tacoma 4WD 2.7 L, 4 cyl, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline
21 2022 Toyota Tacoma 2WD 3.5 L, 6 cyl, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline
20 2022 Toyota Tacoma 4WD 3.5 L, 6 cyl, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline
20 2022 Toyota Tacoma 4WD 3.5 L, 6 cyl, Manual 6-spd, Regular Gasoline
18 2022 Toyota Tacoma 4WD 3.5 L, 6 cyl, Manual 6-spd, Regular Gasoline - D-CAB MT TRD-ORP/PRO
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Old 12-03-2021, 07:24 AM
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I average 25 to 26 mpg on my 2019 Ford Ranger.
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Old 12-03-2021, 11:19 AM
 
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I am disappointed as I really wanted to be an early adopter with this. Gas mileage isnt really a concern or I wouldnt buy a truck. I actually have a lightning and CT reserved and I will drive my 2015 tundra until then then make a decision.

I did however look at and drive a new maverick. Ford did an excellent job on that and for 20-30k you can beat it. I want another full size but the maverick checks a lot of boxes for the every day driver whos like the utility
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Old 12-03-2021, 12:30 PM
 
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Default 90-Year Reign Over?]

The Tundra may determine who wins the race this year.

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Originally Posted by 90-Year Reign Over?
Toyota May Replace GM As Biggest Automaker In US
Oct 04, 2021 at 1:53pm ET
By: Chris Bruce

The automotive sales race in the US is heating up, and there's a chance that General Motors might not be the country's full-year sales leader when the calendar turns over to January 2022. It would be the first time in 90 years for The General not to have the crown, and Toyota might become the new king.

As of the third quarter of 2021, Toyota Motor North America moved 1,857,884 vehicles for the year so far. In comparison, GM delivered 1,777,483 in the same period. While 80,401 cars isn't a massive lead, it gives Toyota an edge going into the final months of the year.

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It'll be an interesting race to the finish, especially since Toyota will have the first units of the new Tundra on the market before the end of the year. With decades of experience, not count GM out of this fight just yet.
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Old 12-05-2021, 01:28 PM
 
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It's taking a long time to release the fuel economy figures for the 2022 Tundra. I'm wondering if they will be similar to the Tacoma figures.
It turns out that the Tundra fuel economy figures are only lower than the Tacoma figures by 1 mpg. Pretty big improvement (5 mpg) over the old engine.

MPG - combined city/hwy
  • 21 2022 Toyota Tacoma 2WD 3.5 L, 6 cyl, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline
  • 20 2022 Toyota Tacoma 4WD 3.5 L, 6 cyl, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline
    .
  • 20 2022 Toyota Tundra 2WD 3.4 L, 6 cyl, Automatic (S10), Turbo, Regular Gasoline
  • 19 2022 Toyota Tundra 4WD 3.4 L, 6 cyl, Automatic (S10), Turbo, Regular Gasoline
    .
  • 15 2021 Toyota Tundra 2WD 5.7 L, 8 cyl, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline
  • 14 2021 Toyota Tundra 4WD 5.7 L, 8 cyl, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline

Since they now have almost identical operating costs the 50% additional towing capacity plus an extra 250 lbs of payload makes the Tundra worth the extra $8000 for people who want more capacity.
  • $27,715 2022 Toyota Tacoma 2WD- tow up to 6,800 pounds | Payload Capacity 1685 pounds
  • $35,950 2022 Toyota Tundra SR DC 6.5ft-bed 2WD - tow up to 10,200 pounds | Payload Capacity 1940 pounds
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Old 12-09-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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EPA estimated annual fuel cost
  • $1,700 TACOMA 2WD Auto(S6)
  • $1,750 TACOMA 4WD Auto(S6)
  • $1,750 TUNDRA 2WD Auto(S10)
  • $1,850 TUNDRA 4WD Auto(S10)
  • $1,950 TACOMA 4WD Manual(M6)
  • $1,950 TACOMA 4WD D-CAB MT TRD-ORP/PRO Manual(M6)
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  • $2,050 4RUNNER 2WD Auto(S5)
  • $2,050 4RUNNER 4WD Auto(S5)
  • $2,350 SEQUOIA 2WD Auto(S6)
  • $2,500 SEQUOIA 4WD Auto(S6)
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Old 12-09-2021, 02:26 PM
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Toyota sells 1/10 of the trucks Ford sells in the USA.
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Old 12-09-2021, 09:14 PM
 
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Toyota sells 1/10 of the trucks Ford sells in the USA.
That's a bit of an exagerration. So far this year Toyota truck sales are at 37% Ford sales. It is true that TUNDRA sales are 12.2% of F-SERIES sales. Is that what you mean?

First 9 months of 2021 | US sales
1,331,542 Total Vehicles Ford Division
1,619,078 Total Vehicles Toyota Division

First 9 months of 2021
534,831 F-SERIES
72,706 RANGER
9,889 HEAVY TRUCKS
506 MAVERICK
78,799 TRANSIT
19,621 TRANSIT CONNECT
716,352 Ford trucks

First 9 months of 2021
65,013 Tundra
200,631 Tacoma
265,644 Toyota trucks


I don't think Toyota has any illusions about Tundra sales (109,283 in 2020 and 111,673 in 2019) beating the sales of the F-150 (787,422 in 2020 and 896,526 in 2019). They are just trying to get a bigger piece of the pie.
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Old 12-10-2021, 07:56 AM
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They are going to have to make a better looking truck.
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