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The camry is the top seeling cars year after year for a reason;oiwner loality. Remmeebr when the big htree actually had some unitl they screwed the owners to death and they said bye bye, Still losing sales to honda and toyota.
Toyota kept ABS optional on Camrys, save for the XLE, well into this decade, which is appalling, considering the proven safety benefit for the majority of drivers. Similarly, the side airbags have been optional on Corollas for too long, which in a vehicle that size, supposedly a class leader, is unacceptable.
Our 2001 Corolla has side airbags...
When I shopped the car... all the dealerships made disparaging remarks about the side airbags...
Every Toyota, or at least Corolla at the time was made to order and Dealerships, especially Toyota Dealers will do anything to discourage a customer from ordering a car...
I insisted and we got what we wanted... we knew the date our car was being made and were able to see it 2 days before the Dealer received it...
I imagine the argument can be made to make optional equipment standard... but then there is always the price point to consider... especially with entry level vehicles...
For twice the price of a optioned Corolla, one could buy a BMW 325i and get all the air bag, abs and traction control standard... or buy a Lexus?
Toyota kept ABS optional on Camrys, save for the XLE, well into this decade, which is appalling, considering the proven safety benefit for the majority of drivers.
My old 1994 Lumina Euro had standard ABS, and I believe it was standard on all Lumina trims starting either that same year or 1993. I'm amazed it took Toyota until 2005 to make it standard on the Camry.
Why are people still buying Toyota-built vehicles?
I've been wondering that for 15 years! Ugly as can be, and not any better than any other make. In fact they ride closer to a log wagon than anything with comfort
Well, this is what happens when a good car starts being assembled in America. It will be interesting to see how long it is before they pull it out of the US.
They always were junk. Built in japan or the US. It's called engineering and design, which toyotas were never good at doing either
They always were junk. Built in japan or the US. It's called engineering and design, which toyotas were never good at doing either
The Toyota's in the 1980's to mid 1990's were far from junk. They are junk now though as you pointed out. Tell me some better vehicles from the time period I listed above, so I can compare them.
I rented a BMW 10 years ago and could tell the accelerator was some how different... turns out it had drive by wire...
While that may be, I suspect the actual difference was that the accelerator pedal was hinged to the floor instead of the more common "floating" pedal seen in the vast majority of cars these days. The hinged accelerator was fairly common on German cars until recently, and I think BMW still does it; same with Audi.
I can't believe that a highway patrolman didn't have the presence of mind to shift into neutral, turn the engine off, reach down and move the floor mat.
Someone on another thread suggested that there is so much computer controlled devices on cars that maybe the driver could not turn off the engine, or shift to neutral. Also said witnesses noted that the brakes were smoking. His theory was that it wasn't a floor mat but computer failure.
Toyota is living off its late 1980's early 1990's reputation. The new toyotas are unreliable, ugly, uninspiring and now dangerous. Why people continue to purchase these ugly death traps further proves the irrational logic of the masses.
Wait a minute... since when did Toyotas accelerate at high speeds???
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They are junk now though as you pointed out. Tell me some better vehicles from the time period I listed above, so I can compare them.
ugly & dangerous
