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EVERYONE should know how to turn off ANY car that they start and drive. Not to understand that is just stupid, panic or not. Sully, the pilot, could have panicked too, but he did what he was trained to do.
Well, stupid people drive cars. You should know that better than anyone of us.
If you understood what happens to the body in a panic, Skippy, you would not have made that statement. But hey, with you that is par for the course.
No need for disrespect...
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I do know a lot about stupid people driving cars, how people react in panic, and about 'Cockpit Resource Management', I have been driving emergency vehicles for over 25 years.
The point is personal responsibility, something that seems to be going away quicker than throttle cables.
No car is perfect, a driver should know how to handle an emergency, if the do not, they are in peril.
I do know a lot about stupid people driving cars, how people react in panic, and about 'Cockpit Resource Management', I have been driving emergency vehicles for over 25 years.
The point is personal responsibility, something that seems to be going away quicker than throttle cables.
No car is perfect, a driver should know how to handle an emergency, if the do not, they are in peril.
I would never disrespect you, Skippy. Just because someone disagrees with you and what you say, does not constitute disrespect. You'll get a better grasp on that when you get older. It comes through experience. I'm somewhat flattered that you took the time to go find my statement though.
'Skippy' is not a term of respect, but more importantly it adds nothing to the discussion at hand.
Cars evolve, Henry Ford did not trust hydraulic brakes and was one of the last to adopt them. Drive by wire is an emerging technology, good or bad.
People still have to take personal responsibility to understand their vehicles and know how to deal with emergencies.
Corporations need to strive to produce as safe a vehicle as they can and will fail at times, but if they were still producing Model T's they would not pass current safety regs. Technology will advance, but not without problems. There is a long list of recalls, government fixes, etc.
Does that keep us safe?
Safer, maybe, maybe not.
Ultimately, we need to realize that anything can go wrong and be reasonably prepared to deal with it.
'Skippy' is not a term of respect, but more importantly it adds nothing to the discussion at hand.
Cars evolve, Henry Ford did not trust hydraulic brakes and was one of the last to adopt them. Drive by wire is an emerging technology, good or bad.
People still have to take personal responsibility to understand their vehicles and know how to deal with emergencies.
Corporations need to strive to produce as safe a vehicle as they can and will fail at times, but if they were still producing Model T's they would not pass current safety regs. Technology will advance, but not without problems. There is a long list of recalls, government fixes, etc.
Does that keep us safe?
Safer, maybe, maybe not.
Ultimately, we need to realize that anything can go wrong and be reasonably prepared to deal with it.
Well, I don't know your name or what to call you so I'm using Skippy as a term of endearment. Just let me know what you'd like to be called, Skippy, and I'll do so.
Well, I don't know your name or what to call you so I'm using Skippy as a term of endearment. Just let me know what you'd like to be called, Skippy, and I'll do so.
Why not just try to stay on topic? My moniker is pretty obvious, it is on top of each of my posts.
Let me ask you this: Do you deny that each of us has a responsibility to know how to operate a vehicle on public roads, even in an emergency?
Well, I don't know your name or what to call you so I'm using Skippy as a term of endearment. Just let me know what you'd like to be called, Skippy, and I'll do so.
Why not just try to stay on topic, and my moniker is pretty obvious, it is on top of each of my posts.
Let me ask you this: Do you deny that each of us has a responsibility to know how to operate a vehicle on public roads, even in an emergency?
There have been other cars made by other manufacturers that have had the same number of reported incidents if not more. For some reason, they don't warrant government pronouncements. I find that suspicious.
momof2, with all the crappy driving you've we see around here, I'd bet dollars to donuts the Toyota connection is a coincidence.
We all have the responsibility, I fully agree with you on that. However, when people can't even assume the responsibility of not texting while driving or not buckling up or restraining their kids properly, how can we expect them to to operate a vehicle properly in an emergency or not? Those people aren't going to take the time to bother and sadly, they comprise a large percentage of the drivers out there.
I don't 'expect' them to operate a vehicle properly, but if they die doing it I do not mourn them. And I do not necessarily blame it on the car they are driving, precisely because of what you point out about texting, putting on make-up, etc.
I think they should be fined heavily and taken off the road.
As to the innocents that are killed, I mourn them, but it is a fact of life. Trust me, I have seen it, and picked up the pieces more than you know, or I care to remember.
There have been other cars made by other manufacturers that have had the same number of reported incidents if not more. For some reason, they don't warrant government pronouncements. I find that suspicious.
Suspicious of what? What is happening now has happened before with other makes. Just admit it. Toyota is screwing up and making this worse just as has happened to other car makers.
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