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FYI- the american company who makes the Toyota gas pedals in 'question' absolutely denies that their pedals are an issue and claim that all the tests on them came up inconclusive. Toyota is doing spin control to appease the public and chose the pedal manufacture to blame, instead of telling the truth that its driver error at blame.
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I've had my computer for 4 years now, and, guess what, all of a sudden, there's a problem with the hard drive.
From what I understand of the whole thing, it seems there are only two companies in the US who actually manufacture the equipment for the throttles, so, consequently, if it is proven there is a fault, then it's likely that many US based manufacturers will be affected.
Again, my understanding with Toyota is that, while they suffered less reported incidents than GM, they took longer to address the problem.
Maybe they were covering up, maybe they wanted to wait to be sure, because of the inevitable damage to corporate image.
Or, here's the shocker, folks.
Maybe, just maybe, there actually isn't a major flaw with the cars, and they didn't actually need to have a knee jerk reaction
The lemmings comment in the post above is correct.
Don't believe everything which is written in the papers, most of it is rumour, counter rumour, and personal opinion, and it is not in the interests of consumer safety, but for the sole purpose of selling newspapers, and attracting viewers to TV shows.
Have a look on the dictionary for "sensationalism"
The early failures with Toyota throttle pedals were down to condensation meaning the mechanical parts of the throttle mechanism were poorly lubricated, and could potentially stick.
If this affected Toyota, it must have affected other manufacturers too ?
I'm not blaming the manufacturer, and I'm not blaming Toyota.
Largely because I don't care, and largely because it seems that, tragic as the accidents are, they could not have been foreseen, and, like it or not, ALL companies involved in the whole panicfest are doing their bit to see that it's put right.
My post is not a rant against any of the companies involved, but about the over hyped media sensationalism, and large scale ignorance of the world to the actual facts.
Personally, yes, I think there is a problem with the design somewhere down the line, not just Toyota, but everyone who uses it, but I also think that it will be proven that driver error was a factor in many of these cases.
(BTW, "inconclusive" is not the same as "NOT")
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FYI- the american company who makes the Toyota gas pedals in 'question' absolutely denies that their pedals are an issue and claim that all the tests on them came up inconclusive. Toyota is doing spin control to appease the public and chose the pedal manufacture to blame, instead of telling the truth that its driver error at blame.
Another interesting issue is that its only the Toyotas made in the US, not in any other country...
I realize this forum is US-centric, but things do happen in other countries. For example: Europeans warned of Toyota pedals well before US - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100407/ap_on_bi_ge/us_toyota_recall - broken link)
Yes, but it's a horrific malfunction which could happen on ANY car.
I've been driving some 25 years now, and I've had it happen twice on cable operated throttle systems, when the cable has broken, or frayed, and got jammed at full throttle.
I've also had it happen on a motorcycle, which wasn't pleasant.
Maybe we can look at how drivers are educated, rather than 100% blaming it on the company. I'm not saying they're totally innocent, mind, I'm undecided either way. Any driver should have the forethought to shift to neutral in an emergency such as this, and it says more about the people who didn't.
Pilots are trained in simulators to recreate failures and emergencies, they spend hours learning how to react, why can't drivers be ?
Spoons don't make people fat, remember.
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Either way it is a horrific malfunction (when it does occur) that no one should have to deal with in the first place.
What I'm more interested in regarding the sudden acceleration stuff is the psychological effect.
You book your car into a garage, when you get it back, you listen intently for new noises, if you're paranoid enough, you will hear them, even if they're old noises you've got used to.
You're working on something, and cut your finger, you don't notice. Suddenly, you see the blood, then you notice that it hurts like a bas*ard !!
You've had a Toyota for years, it's been fine, then you hear all these horror stories, it must have some kind of psychological impact, maybe it's behind some of the folk who appear to outright panic.
See where i'm going ?
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