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I would want a 'lack of parental control free' flight.
I don't mind crying babies....babies cry. As long as I see the parent trying to do something about - that kid can cry and cry and I'm ok....in fact, I'll try and help them if they need it. But for the parents that do nothing - that irks me. And for the parent that does nothing while the kid is in the seat repeatedly kicking mine - that irks me too.
I don't mind kids....as long as the parents are minding them.
I agree with all of the above and I don't have any children so I am probably less tolerant of kids screaming than many of you.
I would say 9 times out of 10 it is the parents that are the root of the issue. The parent who lets the kid scream without trying to do anything about it, the parent who lets the kids roam free on the plane, the parent who lets their kid kick the seat in front of them incessantly...these are the people I would pay to get away from.
Let them think that. Too manny peopel are intimmidated into silence and that only makes the problem worse. Bad behavior should be confronted and the people shamed into doing something about it.
There is no excuse for small children to cry during the flight. Babies cry and there is little that can be done so there should be baby-free flights, not child-free. Children sould be able to be controlled by their parents. That's a parent's job.
Ya you're right! I think we let the "Angry Momma" thing get out if hand so they think they can just let their kids cry without doing anything. I realize that not all parents are like this. But still, I think we should say something and not let PC get in the way of it!!
'If you are going to take your child out in public can you at least teach it some manners' is one line I use when I'm being irritated by someones badly behaved child....
This idea would fail, as people won't pay the extra $ for a childfree flight...and the airline would surely charge more for it. Crying babies and children don't bother me, I use headphones. I am more irritated by wide people in seats next to me, but I still deal with them. I go into a flight not expecting an awesome time, and it normally makes my experience better....but I am a pretty tolerant and patient person.
'If you are going to take your child out in public can you at least teach it some manners' is one line I use when I'm being irritated by someones badly behaved child....
Thank you!! For us people who are irritated by ill-behaved children, we news to be more gutsy like swisswife here!! Kudos to you ma'am.
I see no reason those on both sides of the camp can't be accomodated. I don't understand why parents would object to someone else having a seperate quiet space that would be gauranteed to be a quiet zone for those who desire and/or outright NEED peace and quiet in the first place.
Let's face it..the world has become such a noisy place as it is. I see nothing wrong with trying to cut down on unneccessary noise altogether. For me that would also include excessive lawn mowing/leaf blowing (I despise those things with the fire of a thousand suns), boom-boom cars, certain types of motorcycle etc etc.
I believe that excessive/ongoing noise is indeed assault, just as much as walking up and hitting someone in the face. I'm tired of seeing noise pollution taken so lightly. And I"m definitely tired of hearing about noise sensitive & those who live by Silence is Golden pooh-poohed and basically told that if they don't like all the noise, then they could just go live on the Moon.
Those, like me, who object to excessive noise have just as much a right to our places of quiet (think of how libraries used to be treated and even the reverence for nature) as the noise makers have to be here.
This is why I think that there's no reason both sides can't be accomodated.
Thank you!! For us people who are irritated by ill-behaved children, we news to be more gutsy like swisswife here!! Kudos to you ma'am.
well to be honest I am possibly the LEAST tolerant person I know. and most of my friends would support that
If mums are struggling with babies who are suffering air pressure etc then fair enough but some peoples children are just monsters and allowed to annoy everyone around them.
well to be honest I am possibly the LEAST tolerant person I know. and most of my friends would support that
If mums are struggling with babies who are suffering air pressure etc then fair enough but some peoples children are just monsters and allowed to annoy everyone around them.
Yeah! I know! I read somewhere that giving babies something to suck on such as a pacifier, actually helps with ear pressure. But for those whose kids are not dealing with ear pressure, they do need to control them better, I don't care how tired you are.
Also, if the CF flights don't happen, then I hope they at least make some kind if soundproof wall to separate the mothers with crying children from the adults who do not have (or have the patience for) children.
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