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There's a difference between discreet but attentive, polished, professional "my pleasure" fine dining service and over the top TGIF style service--especially if the server slides into your booth to take your order--I HATE that. My tip reflects that difference.
PS--The only time I'm OK with a server sitting down at my table is when we go to a local family type place and we tell our friend who is a server there to sit and chat for a few if we're there on a slow night. Big difference.
Often the best service really is not the fancy, well trained kind but those places where your waitress is genuinely friendly, usually in those places like Waffle House or Denny's or esecially little diners where they really do not have to be friendly to you.
europeans are stingy as they come they would take the tip money if you werent looking
Really ?! So how come in Europe it is quite common to leave the cash on the table for your meal or drinks and just leave. I still do it regularily myself.
I haven't heard of restaurants or bars moaning that someone hasn't paid their bills and I have yet to see anyone take that easy cash. I have a few friends/acquaintances in the restaurant business and they have never mentioned being cheated once.
Grow up. Quite frankly your ignorance does you no credit.
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Guess what, your cheap and hdiing it under the guise of "culture".
Since you stated that you Europens restaurants pay better and dont rely on tips and US doesn't you understand that waiters, bartenders, etc count on tips nad only make like $3 an hour so you not tipping is hurting their pockets.
You sorta make an interesting point about why are you basically subsidizing the owner of the restaurant meaning he can pay less but you have to partly pay his employees. It's a good point and you had me thinkingt long and hard but guess what eating in Europe costs a fortune. I imagine not in whole but in part b/c the tip is included in the meal price.
If the owner didn't want his waiters to accept tips you would probably wind up paying a few bucks more for your meal but in the US we dont do it that way.
You obviously understand the culture nad are using the guise Im from a place where we dont tip so its okay. Ever heard the phrase when in rome?
So I guess tipping is charity here in the US ... It's not the customer's job to pay someone their wages and that's where the American way is screwed up. I tip if the service justifies it NOT because the server is not being paid enough. I am a customer NOT an employer!
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If you are paying a service bill in the U.S., you are not paying their salary, you are paying them directly for the service they provided you. If you think you have already paid and then leave without leaving a decent tip, you have just stolen the service provided to you.
If you don't want to think of yourself as 'cheap' think of yourself as a 'thief' instead. It would be more accurate, anyway.
Yup ... This post has "entitlement" written all over it ...
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It's obvious that a bad tipper will also be treated poorly upon return. What's to not understand? If you still a server on the tip and come back, expect the server to cough up a loogie into your soup (if it's real bad service and I choose to stiff the servor for that reason, I wouldn't be back anyways).
And here we have the ultimate solution, the bad tipper database. A bit silly, but here it is, complete with names and addresses when you dive into it:
Sorry but servers that do this stuff are plain disgusting and makes me lose respect for the industry! This type of barbaric behavior flies in the face of customer service and should NEVER be tolerated!
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