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Old 10-18-2011, 04:32 PM
 
Location: California Mountains
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In those Grand Tour days it was the wealthier class who took such trips, and after deregulation of the airlines fares became cheaper and the world became smaller.
You're right about the Grand Tour. I completely forgot about it. Grand Tour was the reason many Italian (and French) words, food, and customs became parts of the wealthy English life.
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: California Mountains
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American tourists are generally pretty obnoxious and intolerant.
I'm staying out of this one.
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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Wink why?

..it's ROMANTIC
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:15 PM
 
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With the exchange rate, who can afford to travel to Europe?
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:58 AM
 
Location: on an island
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I'm staying out of this one.
Me too. We've been over and over this.
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With the exchange rate, who can afford to travel to Europe?
I guess it depends on how/where you like to travel.
We're traveling to France and Spain for 3 weeks in December. Our one big splurge will be 89 euro a night, today that's about $123.00, and doable for us.
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Old 10-19-2011, 05:04 AM
 
Location: on an island
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You're right about the Grand Tour. I completely forgot about it. Grand Tour was the reason many Italian (and French) words, food, and customs became parts of the wealthy English life.
Really interesting book I just read:
Americans in Paris: The Geeater Journey by David McCullough.

As you can imagine, traveling across the Atlantic ocean was a huge (and sometimes fatal) committment in those days. As described in one of the reviews of the book, during the 19th century "there was a wave of intellectual migration" to Paris (with some spillover into Italy.)
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Earth
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There's so much more to Europe than just Italy...it almost seems like the cliche American tourist destination.

Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, Greece, etc., have so much to see as well. Does anybody else also think Italy is uber predictable?
Because Italy is where all our favorite movies were filmed and because we like Italian food - or at least we like what they serve at Olive Garden anyway...?

I've never been to Italy. It's too expensive. Prague was amazing and is very underrated. I wish I had more time to see other parts of the Czech Republic outside of the city.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: EPWV
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DH and I enjoyed our 3 year stay in Italy and would surely go back to visit some day. We'd also like to go back and tour through Austria and Germany. We'd also like to visit Ireland, Scotland and England and Wales. Also, Greece and Spain and France and,....
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:14 AM
 
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DH and I enjoyed our 3 year stay in Italy and would surely go back to visit some day. We'd also like to go back and tour through Austria and Germany. We'd also like to visit Ireland, Scotland and England and Wales. Also, Greece and Spain and France and,....
Better get crackin'.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: California Mountains
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Thanks for the recommendation. I've only read two of David McCullough's works so far -- 1776 is fascinating and a fast read, while John Adams is half the size of War and Peace and took me months! I'm sure The Greatest Journey would be more enjoyable.
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