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Old 01-30-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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So I've traveled a lot on business over the past few years and have noticed that men don't seem to help women put their baggage into the overhead compartments very often. Men, do you help? Why or why not? Women, do you expect the help or ask for help?
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:30 AM
 
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Actually if one has a problem I think one should ask for help from one of the flight attendants.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:13 AM
 
Location: apparently NeverLand
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I'm a female, and if I have a problem lifting something I ask someone who works there to help. I don't put it off on a random stranger to help out.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:32 AM
 
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So I've traveled a lot on business over the past few years and have noticed that men don't seem to help women put their baggage into the overhead compartments very often. Men, do you help? Why or why not? Women, do you expect the help or ask for help?
I don't expect or need the help. The day I can't safely put my bag into the overhead by myself is the day I start checking it.

I think it's utterly ridiculous for anyone to expect another person to help them with a bag unless that person is a paid porter.

By the way, flight attendants are not obligated to assist with bags, and under their union work rules, can refuse to do so. Don't get on a plane expecting the FA to lift or otherwise stow your bag for you. They are there for your safety, not as porters.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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The day I can't safely put my bag into the overhead by myself is the day I start checking it.
AMEN!

That should be a requirement. If you can't lift your bag into the bin, check it.

Heck when they crown me King of the world, checked bags will be free, and carry on will be surcharged. I want people loaded, butts in the seats ready to go, not jockeying for space, and then not being able to put their darn bag in when they finally find it.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I think that chivalry is generally dead all through the airport. It is too crowded, flights are delayed and cancelled, people are stressed, you are lucky they aren't allowed to take guns through the checkpoint or there would be shootings instead of snarls.

However, I have discovered that chivalry is available if you request it politely. It is not automatic. My personal example, I went to check in for my flight and discovered that they had moved me to a flight that was 2 hours earlier and was about to leave.

I ran to the checkpoint and asked if I could cut the line since my flight was taking off in 15 minutes.. I received at least 3 snarls that I should have arrived earlier. But when I explained that my flight had been changed without notifying me, the snarls changed immediately to murmurs of sympathy and I was ushered right through the checkpoint.

Conclusuion: do not expect anything you don't deserve or should be doing for yourself. But people will still help you if you are desperate from a situation that is out of your control.

By the way, I caught that flight. I ran the whole way and the flight attendant was holding the door for me, waving and shouting for me to hurry. The plane started moving as soon as the door was closed. So there is at least a tiny shred of chivalry left in the flight crews as well. (my bag didn't make it, but my dog was carry-on and the bag was delivered to my door a bit later)
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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FA's not helping to put bags in the overhead have nothing to do with "union work rules" it has everything to do with the company denying workman's comp because loading bags "is not part of the job duty".
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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So I've traveled a lot on business over the past few years and have noticed that men don't seem to help women put their baggage into the overhead compartments very often. Men, do you help? Why or why not? Women, do you expect the help or ask for help?
I assist anyone, man ... woman ... child when they seem to need or want it. I (a male) do not, however, offer assistance solely because another passenger is female (or other gender/age).
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:52 PM
 
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AMEN!

That should be a requirement. If you can't lift your bag into the bin, check it.

Heck when they crown me King of the world, checked bags will be free, and carry on will be surcharged. I want people loaded, butts in the seats ready to go, not jockeying for space, and then not being able to put their darn bag in when they finally find it.
I'd rather pay extra to carry on then wait for my luggage. I'm probably the exception to the rule.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:53 PM
 
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FA's not helping to put bags in the overhead have nothing to do with "union work rules" it has everything to do with the company denying workman's comp because loading bags "is not part of the job duty".
Same idea. Bottom line, FA's do not have to assist with bags. If you can't lift it safely, check it.
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