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Houses are really cheap in america to rent. I was looking and its as little as £1500 for a month in southern florida. But when you goto spain they charge you £2000 for two weeks. The only problem is that the flights to america are at rediculous prices.
I have a friend who would travel consistently every year. Her vacations were three or four weeks because she had that much time on her job. She planned her trips with a travel agent at the beginning of the year and paid on it monthly until the time for her trips arrived. Now, since she's had to switch jobs and has less vacation time, she travels less. She was able to afford traveling because she saved for it throughout the year and made payments on the vacation she planned to take.
I think vacationing in America is different because our time off is usually only one to two weeks per year. So, saving and selecting a vacationing spot for this short period of time, for many, is useless. We have 50 states, and that's about all you can travel (individually) given one to two weeks of paid leave. Europe, Asia, Africa, and Austrailia are all very far destinations for most Americans, so traveling 10 to 16 hours for only one week of vacation, is costly and timely.
In Europe, going to another country is often closer and cheaper, plus, you have more time to spend there! Affording vacation I think has more to do also with what most view as attainable. I plan on traveling a lot during my mid forties through my sixties...with children! For us, affording it will include using credit cards (and paying them off); using house swaping/exchanging; flying off season; and staying longer than two weeks on a continent. This way, our expenses will mimic our usual expenses. Once DH retires, he's time off will be limitless. So, I think "affordability" is unique to each person's situation.
Also, how one likes to live will affect affordability. Some people just won't stay at a hotel that is less than say, 4 Stars, etc.
Well I am saving up for a holiday to america. I have saved up about £1000 so far. But i cant see it happening this year. Dad just does not wanna leave this country. My mum said she would go but not without him. So hes kinda ruining it for all of us. He is such a cheapskate and does not like spending money on anything. So it is that bad that I a 17 without a job am offering to pay my way. Sorry but I hate wasting my summer in this boring country- it rains constantly and there is nothing to do. If i had my way as soon as i got off id be away to the sun and not return to ni until week before school. We can afford it he just wont do it. So i have to nag him. Im beginning to get sick of spending summers here. If i could do it id just jet off to america by melself and leave him here but no i have to wait to when he wants to go.
Sorry, but you've made an inference here that is non sequitur.
It does not follow from my claim that people may fabricate their travel experiences that I have little to no travel experience myself. It would also be wrong, given that I've traveled abroad to most of Europe, the USA and the far east over the course of my life.
The fact that dishonest people exist is simply a fact of life, and one that holds true independently of the background and nature of the person promulgating that fact.
How does one know that you're not being dishonest?
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Well I'm sorry you feel that way, but why else would you make a claim to the effect that "there is more to the world than the USA"?
There's really no point getting defensive over a triviality like this. Just to show you there's no negative sentiment on my part, I've given rep to your last post.
One option I've found for summer traveling is renting university dorms when classes aren't in session. I've gotten some really cheap lodging before in two different cities (Taipei, Montreal) and my guess is there are probably more universities out there that do the same.
Lots of them do throughout Europe.
Olomouc, Czech is one.
Don't worry about it.
You went there when it was still good.
Now it's getting so homogenized as not to be recognized.
Went there several times in the 80s, several times in the 90s, and then again in 2007...entirely different.
Europe is no longer a good place to travel?
You can always find authentic areas in every country.
Houses are really cheap in america to rent. I was looking and its as little as £1500 for a month in southern florida. But when you goto spain they charge you £2000 for two weeks. The only problem is that the flights to america are at rediculous prices.
Yes, I agree. It's the airfare that's become too expensive. Rentals are probably cheap in Florida because the real estate market has crashed there so it's a good time to go. If you wanted to rent in other parts of the country, it's expensive--I live near a beach in the north and it's $2000/week in the summer (which is the only time anyone would want to come here).
Houses are really cheap in america to rent. I was looking and its as little as £1500 for a month in southern florida. But when you goto spain they charge you £2000 for two weeks. The only problem is that the flights to america are at rediculous prices.
Depends where you go. America is huge. You you can rent a cheap house in Miami, no problem, but NY is a whole different ball game.
No, I didn't see it as self righteous, just defensive against someone lumping people together as boozers, credit card abusers, living the high life, not willing to save or sacrifice, etc.
There are plenty of people who sacrifice and can still not afford to travel. At a family gathering this past weekend this was a main topic of conversation with the older people and the younger people--all wanting to travel but not being able to afford to. Airfare in particular, has gotten out of control.
England is the only place I or my dh want to go because he is English. Neither of us need medical tourism, he wants to see his friends (his family is deceased) and I would like to see the last few living members of my family. We both enjoy England and have gone on the cheap before but with the high air fares (and we check online all the time) it's become almost impossible.
You have yourself set on England and your travel would be specifically as a vacation rather than pursuing a work opportunity which is not the same course as people who prioritize travel. It hasn't really all been lumping people as boozers, credit card abusers, living the high life, not willing to save or sacrifice, etc. Also, it sounds like you got screwed in your finances terribly by your ex and I don't think that's something that could be generalized so much. Generalizations means there will be people with particular circumstances which won't fit into the generalization.
As for England, you're in New England so the price shouldn't be too terrible. Have you tried registering accounts on the various services (kayak, expedia, hipmunk, fly.com, google flight, etc.) and setting up price alerts for all of them? NYC (which probably have similar prices) I've set price alerts for before and have seen tickets for the low 300s roundtrip.
Well I am saving up for a holiday to america. ............. So it is that bad that I a 17 without a job am offering to pay my way............ If i could do it id just jet off to america by melself and leave him here but no i have to wait to when he wants to go.
So, save up for one more year, get your passport, and take off by yourself. You don't need parents to go with you after you are 18. I don't see the problem. One year is not a long time and it gives you more time to save up more money for the vacation.
Maybe, you could sign up for a summer college course in a fun part of America and travel on a student visa. If not, it is no problem to get a tourist visa for a short visit.
Chat with your friends and see if you can find someone who is responsible who want to travel with you. If you split the cost of the motel rooms, your trip will be less expensive. Motels in the USA charge by the room, not by the number of occupants. The room will cost the same whether it is just one or there are two sleeping in there.
You have yourself set on England and your travel would be specifically as a vacation rather than pursuing a work opportunity which is not the same course as people who prioritize travel. It hasn't really all been lumping people as boozers, credit card abusers, living the high life, not willing to save or sacrifice, etc. Also, it sounds like you got screwed in your finances terribly by your ex and I don't think that's something that could be generalized so much. Generalizations means there will be people with particular circumstances which won't fit into the generalization.
As for England, you're in New England so the price shouldn't be too terrible. Have you tried registering accounts on the various services (kayak, expedia, hipmunk, fly.com, google flight, etc.) and setting up price alerts for all of them? NYC (which probably have similar prices) I've set price alerts for before and have seen tickets for the low 300s roundtrip.
Thank you, that sounds like good advice. We always look on the various sites but have never registered for price alerts. I know you can go on the cheap in the winter but we do want to go when certain places are open. Places my dh wants me to see like open air markets and there are houses to tour, plus gardens we've always wanted to see.
We did go in 2006 with last minute tickets in September but price have really climbed since then. I know that last minute tickets are usually cheaper and so are tickets bought six months in advance. I'm not sure but I don't think the prices from New England are any cheaper although it would seem that they would be.
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