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Old 08-04-2016, 05:20 PM
 
Location: NJ
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so we have an upcoming trip to paradise island and of course my brother knocks up his wife. they asked a doctor about a month ago and i guess he said it was fine. there had been no zika cases reported there. the other day, i guess she asked another doctor and he suggested that she not go. my brother did some reading and saw that there still have been no reported cases and apparently they dont have many mosquitoes because of the terrain on the island.

now, i feel if you ask a doctor many always go with "better safe than sorry." i doubt that doctor knows anything about the situation. he is just going with "better safe than sorry." once a doctor says it, you dont have much choice but to listen but i dont know if there is any reason to believe there is a greater risk there than here. i believe there have been more cases in new jersey than over there. i personally dont like "better safe than sorry" as a blanket coverage for every situation. i like to know if its a real elevated risk or not.

any thoughts?
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:26 PM
 
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Zika is all over the Caribbean and now in Florida, so only a matter of time that it is confirmed in the Bahamas. So I would say that yes there is definitely higher risk on Paradise Island than in NJ. The resorts may spray, but there certainly are mosquitos on Paradise Island. I believe it is only a matter of time until Zika spreads across the US as well, but if it were my wife I would play it cautious for now. The dangers to unborn fetuses are well known at this point. For me, nothing would be worth increasing that risk even 1%. Additionally, I suspect Zika has more widespread health risks than has been disclosed so far. Last when traveling to the USVI where Zika was very isolated, JetBlue made a blanket offer of a full refund without penalty on our airfare, without any Dr. authorization required. I found this a bit extreme and curious, but many airlines followed suit.
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Old 08-05-2016, 09:32 AM
 
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I agree, I wouldn't go. Any elevated risk, even .01%, wouldn't be worth it. Plus I doubt they'd be very relaxed worrying about it constantly. Overall it's their decision and they should do what they're comfortable with.
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Old 08-05-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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im not sure if it is elevated at all. there have been 50+ zika cases in nj and none in paradise island. so is it really elevated above her current situation living in nj? she was going until the doctor said and the doctor knows absolutely nothing. everyone just plays the "better safe than sorry" game. i understand doctors need to cover themselves but it also reduces the value of their advice. i dont believe the guy did any research whatsoever on the subject prior to giving a "better safe than sorry" response. i know with my kids, i had to stop calling doctors because they would always either have them come in or send them to the emergency room. so you just have to make your own educated opinion because they are always just covering their butts.
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Old 08-05-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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im not going to try to convince anyone of anything. the problem is that all anyone gives is the same "better safe than sorry" answer based on common knowledge and nobody wants to be blamed if it turned out to be right. id prefer an educated opinion on it.
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Old 08-05-2016, 04:19 PM
 
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Statistically speaking; by OP's statistics (I have not cross-referenced them), there is no elevated risk.
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Old 08-05-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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Zika is all over the Caribbean and now in Florida, so only a matter of time that it is confirmed in the Bahamas. So I would say that yes there is definitely higher risk on Paradise Island than in NJ. The resorts may spray, but there certainly are mosquitos on Paradise Island. I believe it is only a matter of time until Zika spreads across the US as well, but if it were my wife I would play it cautious for now. The dangers to unborn fetuses are well known at this point. For me, nothing would be worth increasing that risk even 1%. Additionally, I suspect Zika has more widespread health risks than has been disclosed so far. Last when traveling to the USVI where Zika was very isolated, JetBlue made a blanket offer of a full refund without penalty on our airfare, without any Dr. authorization required. I found this a bit extreme and curious, but many airlines followed suit.
^^^^ This. Zika isn't a temporary inconvenience, it causes birth defects. I would not head to South Florida or the Caribbean at this time if I were pregnant.
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Old 08-05-2016, 08:44 PM
 
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im not sure if it is elevated at all. there have been 50+ zika cases in nj and none in paradise island. so is it really elevated above her current situation living in nj?
Of these 50+ cases none were acquired or transmitted in New Jersey. They were all people who had traveled to tropical locations.
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Old 08-05-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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Of these 50+ cases none were acquired or transmitted in New Jersey. They were all people who had traveled to tropical locations.
im aware of that but that is still 50+ more cases of zika in nj than the bahamas.
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Old 08-06-2016, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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im not sure if it is elevated at all. there have been 50+ zika cases in nj and none in paradise island. so is it really elevated above her current situation living in nj? she was going until the doctor said and the doctor knows absolutely nothing. everyone just plays the "better safe than sorry" game. i understand doctors need to cover themselves but it also reduces the value of their advice. i dont believe the guy did any research whatsoever on the subject prior to giving a "better safe than sorry" response. i know with my kids, i had to stop calling doctors because they would always either have them come in or send them to the emergency room. so you just have to make your own educated opinion because they are always just covering their butts.
My advice would be to not ask something like this on CD. You will also get 'better safe than sorry' answers here in general as well. Seek out a medical forum. Truthfully I don't know anything about Zika or its incidence in the USA, but I have a hunch there's a higher risk of getting into a car accident with an unborn baby than there is contracting Zika on a short vacation somewhere with no cases of the disease to date.

I like to use this website when I have specific questions. You can seek out personal advice and answers from educated specialists:

http://www.allexperts.com/el/Hematology/

That's just a link to a hematologist, but you can also find the 'health' section and try to find some experts who work with infectious diseases or something.

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