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Your proposed solution is nonsensical, as the percentage of carryon space allotted each passenger would change from aircraft to aircraft, and passengers would have no way to know in advance exactly what size carryon they’d be permitted to take on each flight (especially since equipment swaps might occur.). It’s completely unworkable.
And you blamed passengers for the situation in post #35: “...but the people from row 36 have too much stuff...”
Easier for the airlines to just charge a hefty fee for carryons, to encourage more cost-conscious passengers to check a bag. It was the checked-bag fees which started the whole mess.
Then how did they figure out one universal bag size that fits on small planes? If a larger bag will fit on a 747 than a CRJ, then in your book they're either under-filling the bins on the 747 or over-filling the ones on the CRJ, and apparently you think this is efficient. Clearly, in the latter case, it isn't.
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And you blamed passengers for the situation in post #35: “...but the people from row 36 have too much stuff...”
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Yes, I did. You exceed the limits, you have too much stuff. That hasn't got anything to do with airline policies, just with them not enforcing same (again, if the limits were reasonable and enforced, this wouldn't be a problem). And yes, it is the fault of the passengers for knowingly exceeding the limits.
Funny enough, I've never been asked to gate-check my carry-on, probably because what I carry is of a reasonable size to fit into the bins on any plane I've ever been on, rather than one of those huge roller suitcases. And it still holds plenty of stuff.
There are a lot of reasons for not checking a bag, which you seem to be missing. Besides the fees, there's also the fact that you don't have to stand in line for baggage check or claim, don't have to worry about your luggage being damaged or robbed or lost (all of the preceding being quite valid concerns, especially these days), and sometimes you simply don't need to take enough to fill a suitcase.
This is probably an odd one... I hate it when the hotel TV remote does not have a sleep timer option. I use the TV to drown out noise from the hall/adjacent room when I am trying to fall asleep.
Then how did they figure out one universal bag size that fits on small planes? If a larger bag will fit on a 747 than a CRJ, then in your book they're either under-filling the bins on the 747 or over-filling the ones on the CRJ, and apparently you think this is efficient. Clearly, in the latter case, it isn't.
They don't fit in all planes. The bin on the one seat side of an Embraer 135/145 has a space roughly the size of a loaf of bread. And it's common for the regional partner airlines to have a 'rulebook' that mandates gate checking all rolling bags regardless of size on their smallest planes.
They don't fit in all planes. The bin on the one seat side of an Embraer 135/145 has a space roughly the size of a loaf of bread. And it's common for the regional partner airlines to have a 'rulebook' that mandates gate checking all rolling bags regardless of size on their smallest planes.
I've experienced that many times and actually find it a nice convenience to not have to drag a bag onto the plane, stuff it somewhere, then drag it off. Easier to just leave it at the waiting gate and get it back on arrival.
Then how did they figure out one universal bag size that fits on small planes? If a larger bag will fit on a 747 than a CRJ, then in your book they're either under-filling the bins on the 747 or over-filling the ones on the CRJ, and apparently you think this is efficient. Clearly, in the latter case, it isn't.
People flying on CRJs know in advance they will have to valet gate-check their large carryon. They are allowed to bring it, they will just have to have it tagged and drop it off at the jetbridge; it will be returned to them on the jetbridge when the flight lands. They are told that before boarding begins and given the tag before they start to board, and it applies to everyone (regardless of their status with the airline on the number of their boarding group). It's efficient enough (and far preferable to actually having to check the bag).
The problems you have been complaining about have nothing to do with that, but rather with the fact that most passengers (who are infrequent flyers, and are therefore almost always in one of the last boarding groups) DON'K know that the bins on a standard-sized aircraft (not a CRJ) will be full by the time the last one or two boarding groups will be boarding, and aren't prepared for the reality that they will have to gate-check their bag.
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Yes, I did. You exceed the limits, you have too much stuff. That hasn't got anything to do with airline policies, just with them not enforcing same (again, if the limits were reasonable and enforced, this wouldn't be a problem). And yes, it is the fault of the passengers for knowingly exceeding the limits.
No passenger who limits himself to one underseat item and one bag no larger than 22"x14"x9" is "knowingly exceeding the limits" or 'bringing too much stuff."
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Funny enough, I've never been asked to gate-check my carry-on, probably because what I carry is of a reasonable size to fit into the bins on any plane I've ever been on, rather than one of those huge roller suitcases. And it still holds plenty of stuff.
There are a lot of reasons for not checking a bag, which you seem to be missing. Besides the fees, there's also the fact that you don't have to stand in line for baggage check or claim, don't have to worry about your luggage being damaged or robbed or lost (all of the preceding being quite valid concerns, especially these days), and sometimes you simply don't need to take enough to fill a suitcase.
No, I am not missing those reasons AT ALL. I almost never check a bag, for just those reasons. But I also know that most people can't travel for more than 2-3 days without needing either a carryon larger than an underseat item or a checked bag. I've traveled for over 3 weeks out of my favorite 22"14"x9" carryon (which has no wheels or rigid frame and weighs about 14 lbs fully packed). And that carryon is almost never gate-checked. But it's too large to fit under a seat, and I usually need that underseat space for my camera gear in any case.
The last thing most travelers would want is for carryon size to be limited to what will fit in the bin of the very smallest CRJ simply to ensure that no one will ever have to gate-check a bag. That is NOT an improvement over the current situation.
They don't fit in all planes. The bin on the one seat side of an Embraer 135/145 has a space roughly the size of a loaf of bread. And it's common for the regional partner airlines to have a 'rulebook' that mandates gate checking all rolling bags regardless of size on their smallest planes.
Yep. Heck, I've had to gate-check my Osprey Porter 46 on a CRJ once or twice, and I've heard of people flying with Red Oxx Air Bosses having to do that as well. Those are not large bags! They fit in the sizer handily. The smallest CRJs have very little space for any carryons, whatever their size, and 1/3 of the seats on those planes are on the side that has no true overhead bin at all. So we're back to the same problem: 1/3 of passengers won't have any spot in a bin to place a carryon (and unless they are frequent flyers, they may not know that).
This poster doesn't know enough about airline configuration to understand why his original idea (different carryon size limits for different planes) is so impractical. Limiting everyone's second item to what will fit in the bread-box bin on the single-seat side of an Embraer 135 is hardly a workable idea.
I was just at MIA Miami International Airport again. Apparently English is a second language there. Even the English announcements are hard to understand.
Person at Budget car rental only spoke Spanish.
Entitled people. I once flew next to a guy who had ordered a vegetarian meal, but when he saw that the offered regular entree, included a salmon dinner, he proceeded to throw a fit becasue he did not want his ordered meal, he wanted the salmon, The stewart had to explain it was not a restaurant, & they could not change his meal.
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