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Old 09-28-2019, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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So they just raise the room prices, it won’t make much difference. Fortunately I only go for a week each year and it’s for a conference, so the company pays for it.
How nice for you...but for everyone else, it's deceptive pricing.
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Old 09-29-2019, 10:06 PM
 
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There is plenty of history of regulation is similar circumstances over the years. I'm too lazy to google them all for you.
What if they call it a service charge? How about a convenience fee? Could their be a demand charge? There could be a hundred names used and good luck getting a court to say all of them are illegal.

I buy more room nights on the Strip than probably all of you. I don't care what they call the cost, I know it's there and it's always very clearly stated to me these days. When it first started I agree they were very sneaky about it but those days are long past. If the charges are disclosed then this is merely a higher room rate to me and my business. It's still a good deal to stay on the Strip on most weekdays so I will continue doing it. If the real cost I paid went way up then it would be time to reconsider. In other words do what we do in a free market system.
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Old 09-29-2019, 10:49 PM
 
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The rule should be based on whether the fee is mandatory (not optional like parking) and not paid to the government. And, really taxes and any other government fees should be included also.

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What if they call it a service charge? How about a convenience fee? Could their be a demand charge? There could be a hundred names used and good luck getting a court to say all of them are illegal.

I buy more room nights on the Strip than probably all of you. I don't care what they call the cost, I know it's there and it's always very clearly stated to me these days. When it first started I agree they were very sneaky about it but those days are long past. If the charges are disclosed then this is merely a higher room rate to me and my business. It's still a good deal to stay on the Strip on most weekdays so I will continue doing it. If the real cost I paid went way up then it would be time to reconsider. In other words do what we do in a free market system.
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Old 09-30-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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What if they call it a service charge? How about a convenience fee? Could their be a demand charge? There could be a hundred names used and good luck getting a court to say all of them are illegal.

I buy more room nights on the Strip than probably all of you. I don't care what they call the cost, I know it's there and it's always very clearly stated to me these days. When it first started I agree they were very sneaky about it but those days are long past. If the charges are disclosed then this is merely a higher room rate to me and my business. It's still a good deal to stay on the Strip on most weekdays so I will continue doing it. If the real cost I paid went way up then it would be time to reconsider. In other words do what we do in a free market system.
Listen to this guy.

He buys more nights on the strip than all ya'll.

Argument over.
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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Buys??? I thought he was on the sell side.

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Listen to this guy.

He buys more nights on the strip than all ya'll.

Argument over.
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Old 10-01-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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What if they call it a service charge? How about a convenience fee? Could their be a demand charge? There could be a hundred names used and good luck getting a court to say all of them are illegal.

I buy more room nights on the Strip than probably all of you. I don't care what they call the cost, I know it's there and it's always very clearly stated to me these days. When it first started I agree they were very sneaky about it but those days are long past. If the charges are disclosed then this is merely a higher room rate to me and my business. It's still a good deal to stay on the Strip on most weekdays so I will continue doing it. If the real cost I paid went way up then it would be time to reconsider. In other words do what we do in a free market system.
How many hotel rooms do you buy in a year?
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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I don't see how this law could be legal. What other industries are required by law to show the components of their charges and not allowed to have some certain charge given? I get the complaints, but this is the free market here. When you buy something retail does it make sense to say I hate that I'm not told how much the price is with tax included? Sorry but I could see the courts laughing their rear ends off and blowing this legislation to the moon.
The airline industry for one- ticket pricing has been all-in for mandatory charges and fees for years. (Baggage and seat assignment charges are optional) And given how long that's been in place, it's likely gone the courts route and being used as a model for the hotels here.

It's actually nice how in the parts of Europe I've stayed it's all-in pricing from the first quote. Unlike, say, Alabama where you have to click through to discover that there's a 20% tax rate applied to properties in some cities there.
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Old 10-01-2019, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Probably need to fix the price of goods and services to include the sales tax rate too, you know, like how the rest of the developed world does.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:38 PM
 
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How many hotel rooms do you buy in a year?
On pace for about 60 nights this year. So my company is paying over $2,000 in resort fees and I don't even go to have a resort experience. But considering about half the nights the room rate is less than or about half of the resort fee I don't see the point in complaining.

For an example I just had to pay $164/night in an old Radisson in need of a serious refresh in the middle of New Jersey. Would all of you been happier paying that "transparent rate" instead of $35/night plus $39/fee for a much nicer room at Bally's on the Strip that I stayed at the night before flying out to NJ? Go look up Radisson Freehold, its in the middle of the state far from much you'd want to see and its rated 4-star, but without question Bally's rooms are far superior.
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Old 10-02-2019, 03:19 AM
 
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On pace for about 60 nights this year. So my company is paying over $2,000 in resort fees and I don't even go to have a resort experience. But considering about half the nights the room rate is less than or about half of the resort fee I don't see the point in complaining.

For an example I just had to pay $164/night in an old Radisson in need of a serious refresh in the middle of New Jersey. Would all of you been happier paying that "transparent rate" instead of $35/night plus $39/fee for a much nicer room at Bally's on the Strip that I stayed at the night before flying out to NJ? Go look up Radisson Freehold, its in the middle of the state far from much you'd want to see and its rated 4-star, but without question Bally's rooms are far superior.

You seem to be completely missing the point about this.

No one is arguing that the price will change, which is the tangent you seem to have gone off on. The point is that the consumer is now better able to compare the prices offered by a variety of vendors much more effectively. Whilst you and everyone else on a nice expense account wouldn't notice the difference anyway, plenty of people on a budget going on vacation like to know what they're paying for their hotel, before they've flown in, landed, and lugged their bags to the reception desk.

To take your example I'd rather be checking into Bally's knowing that I have a $74 room booked, then check in having budgeted for a $35 room and then being told that actually its $74.
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