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Old 10-24-2019, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Victory Mansions, Airstrip One
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Assuming tourism will continue to increase, I'd prefer that everyone visit the same handful of attractions. That will leave plenty of uncrowded and unspoiled places to enjoy.

A few years ago we spent two weeks in Italy. One of those weeks was near a small Umbrian village. It was very scenic and relaxing. No planning and buying tickets months in advance. Each day was planned over breakfast, according to the weather and our mood.
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:33 PM
 
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Tourists are all going the same place. Go someplace else. Don't plan anything. Nothing's been spoiled off the beaten track.

I had mo trouble walking off the street in July finding a nice hostel bunk in Chisinau, Odessa, Batumi, Tbilisi, Yerevan. I have no doubt that every hotel had plenty of same-day vacancies.

You don't have to go off the beaten track. You just have to avoid peak touron season. We were in Galicia a couple of weeks ago. It's flooded with Madrid summer people in July/August escaping the summer heat. By the end of September, it's deserted. We were in a Michelin one star for lunch on a Thursday. It was private dining. We were the only customers. The locals are working. The tourists are gone.


We did the cliche Rome/Florence/Venice thing in mid-May. My girlfriend hadn't done it. It wasn't overrun other than San Marco. If we'd really cared, we could have gotten there early before the tour groups and done the Basilica and Doge's Palace with no queue. We were on Murano for a half day. It was pretty much deserted at that time of year.
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Old 10-24-2019, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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You don't have to go off the beaten track. You just have to avoid peak touron season. We were in Galicia a couple of weeks ago. It's flooded with Madrid summer people in July/August escaping the summer heat. By the end of September, it's deserted. We were in a Michelin one star for lunch on a Thursday. It was private dining. We were the only customers. The locals are working. The tourists are gone.


We did the cliche Rome/Florence/Venice thing in mid-May. My girlfriend hadn't done it. It wasn't overrun other than San Marco. If we'd really cared, we could have gotten there early before the tour groups and done the Basilica and Doge's Palace with no queue. We were on Murano for a half day. It was pretty much deserted at that time of year.
People can usually go WHERE they want, but not WHEN they want.
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Old 10-24-2019, 07:53 PM
 
Location: NYC
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People can usually go WHERE they want, but not WHEN they want.
I hosted some Euro visitors last month & they wanted to see the High Line Park here. We got up early & got there as soon as it opened & had a pretty nice couple of hours without much congestion, but by the time we were done around 10am it was noticeably getting very crowded. And this was the end of September too.
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Old 10-24-2019, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
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You don't have to go off the beaten track. You just have to avoid peak touron season. We were in Galicia a couple of weeks ago. It's flooded with Madrid summer people in July/August escaping the summer heat. By the end of September, it's deserted. We were in a Michelin one star for lunch on a Thursday. It was private dining. We were the only customers. The locals are working. The tourists are gone.


We did the cliche Rome/Florence/Venice thing in mid-May. My girlfriend hadn't done it. It wasn't overrun other than San Marco. If we'd really cared, we could have gotten there early before the tour groups and done the Basilica and Doge's Palace with no queue. We were on Murano for a half day. It was pretty much deserted at that time of year.
Some destinations are only worth visiting during peak season.

Few people want to visit Alaska in December for a good reason.
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Old 10-24-2019, 09:24 PM
 
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You can thank disrespectful tourists and over tourism for this. A lot of people just don't know how to behave themselves when they visit another country and the locals are getting fed up with it. I like the fact that several countries are putting a limit on tourism. You are not entitled to see or visit any place you want. It's a privilege.
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Old 10-24-2019, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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People can usually go WHERE they want, but not WHEN they want.
I'm married to a college professor who can go anywhere he wants as long as it's between May 15 and August 10, one week in March when airfares to get out of Florida are stupidly high, or the time around Christmas when everyone else is trying to visit family too.

So yeah, we're often looking at big crowds for vacation timeframes.
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Old 10-25-2019, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
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I'm married to a college professor who can go anywhere he wants as long as it's between May 15 and August 10, one week in March when airfares to get out of Florida are stupidly high, or the time around Christmas when everyone else is trying to visit family too.

So yeah, we're often looking at big crowds for vacation timeframes.
Is there any reason to leave Florida in the winter?
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Old 10-25-2019, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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You can thank disrespectful tourists and over tourism for this. A lot of people just don't know how to behave themselves when they visit another country and the locals are getting fed up with it. I like the fact that several countries are putting a limit on tourism. You are not entitled to see or visit any place you want. It's a privilege.
That's not true at all, except in a very few special circumstances. I don't know a single country whose constitution gives any rights of movement to some people and not other -- citizens or visitors. If you are legally admitted to a country, you have the same constitutional guarantees and liberties, unless spelled out differently by the stated restrictions in your visa. There maybe a two-tiered schedule of entrance fees, but nobody is denied freedom of movement on the basis if citizenship or residence.

What are the countries that are putting a limit on tourism?
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Old 10-25-2019, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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In 1976, my wife and I traveled overland, from Cameroon to Sierra Leone. Today, that trip would require $1,063 each in visa fees alone, a total of $2,126 for the two of us through just eight countries. Then, we spent seven months in Africa for less than that, inclusive.

With visa fees like that, you won't have to worry much about it being over-run with tourists.
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