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Old 05-13-2021, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA
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Colombia is by far my favorite Latin American -- the one Latin country that is inward-looking and proud of its Latin-American-ness.
What does that even mean? Are Chileans, Uruguayans, etc not proud of their heritage?

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Iran may be my favorite country in the world. A country where people treat each other with respect and dignity.
Seriously? The country where they executed Mahmoud Asgari, Ayaz Marhoni and Navid Afkari? That treating each other with respect and dignity?

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Contrary to the one comment, Iranian women do NOT have to wear "loose" clothing; they just need to wear a top that covers their butt. I saw MANY women in all parts of the country wearing leggings and high heels, but with a tunic top. The young women wear their hijab as far back on their head as possible, with their hair tucked in..
That is simply not accurate. You can find story after story about women being beaten by the "morality police" in Iran.

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I'm not sure it's just France that people are down about, but Paris. I've been to France 13 times...so I guess I must like it
I feel the same. Been to Provence, the Rhone-Alps, Normandy, Brittany and Aquitaine quite a few times and absolutely love the people and have always been very well received and treated well.

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I am not sure but if both women and men are required to cover up in public there is nothing wrong with that. It is the culture and country they grew up in. If you don't like a custom/culture simply don't travel there.
It is recent culture, only since the fall of the Shah. The women in Tehran in the early 1970's looked like they were in Paris in high couture; nary a hijab or burka to be seen.

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My fave country is Vietnam. So beautiful & diverse, amazing food, so cheap, easy to get around, great & welcoming people.
I don't know many people who are down on Vietnam, it just isn't well known or talked about a lot.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:40 AM
 
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What does that even mean? Are Chileans, Uruguayans, etc not proud of their heritage?


Seriously? The country where they executed Mahmoud Asgari, Ayaz Marhoni and Navid Afkari? That treating each other with respect and dignity?


That is simply not accurate. You can find story after story about women being beaten by the "morality police" in Iran.
Colombians are proud that they are Latin Americans, and do not "look up" to other nations as their model to emulate.

Texas alone has executed 52 people in 5 years. Want me to name them? The first two you named were probably executed illegally, in violation of several humanitarian Iranian laws to protect them.

Half of all American women report that they have been sexually molested by American men..

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Old 05-17-2021, 10:54 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Ukraine is a great place to visit. I'm glad it's not super touristy because it means low crowds and no busloads of idiotic tourists.
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Old 05-17-2021, 09:04 PM
 
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Ciudad Juarez was not bad whatsoever. Felt much better than its image and past reputation. I think its a big plus if you live in El Paso to cross the border for dinner, lunch etc. I would get a Sentri card for sure, those lines are no joke.
Never had problem in Juarez except the one time I rented a car and drove over there. The driverw there made Boston drivers seem quite tame.
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Old 05-17-2021, 10:57 PM
 
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Africa should be mentioned. I loved bumming around in Africa, although most people wouldn't even go there on a free 5-star trip. In the 70s there was no Lonely Planet, the only travel guide was the Michelin maps, you just prayed they were accurate, and they always were. Was there again 5 years ago, Africa hasn't changed much in a half century.
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Old 05-18-2021, 12:48 PM
 
Location: NYC
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...... In the 70s there was no Lonely Planet, the only travel guide was the Michelin maps, you just prayed they were accurate, and they always were. Was there again 5 years ago, Africa hasn't changed much in a half century.
When I first hit the road for an extended time & still a teen at the dawn of the 70's, I used Arthur Frommer's "Europe on $5/Day" as my bible. Michelin was way above my budget & hippie mindset. "...$5/Day" clued Americans on to small European 1-2 star hotels for probably the first time & not the well known chains. More pertinent to me was the revelation of hostels which were virtually unknown in the US.

I was on the road at the same time the couple who eventually started the Lonely Planet books later were. They started out from Australia, the other end of the trail, & started mimeographing "SE Asia on a Shoestring" for us... obviously much smarter than me.

The place that I loved most back then that most people, including me, wouldn't have given a second thought about was Yugoslavia - it floored me. Specifically what is now Croatia, really lovely, regretfully I have never returned & hear has become mobbed after Game of Thrones series.
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Old 05-18-2021, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Mexico City
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I was on the road at the same time the couple who eventually started the Lonely Planet books later were.
We used to use those, especially in SE Asia. Usually used Moon in Latin America, and sometimes Rough Guide. Longer trips we'd try to make them more transportable by tearing out sections we knew we wouldn't use, since would have 4-5.
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Old 05-18-2021, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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I love France. French people are so, well, French. Which is a thing in itself that everyone fits.

Colombia is by far my favorite Latin American -- the one Latin country that is inward-looking and proud of its Latin-American-ness.

Iran may be my favorite country in the world. A country where people treat each other with respect and dignity.
I like Colombia too! I only had time to scratch the surface there but I would absolutely go back.
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Old 05-18-2021, 11:32 PM
 
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We used to use those, especially in SE Asia. Usually used Moon in Latin America, and sometimes Rough Guide. Longer trips we'd try to make them more transportable by tearing out sections we knew we wouldn't use, since would have 4-5.

The best of the ilk was the South American Handbook, ca.1990. Fine print, thin paper. But even then, by that time, no budget guidebook is really necessary. Even Europe in the 60s, you could just stay at the Post Hotel across the street from the train station, and still stay under Fodor's $5/day. In '68, I crossed North Africa from Tripoli to Casablanca with nu guidebook at all. I tried to wean myself of them, buy LP China was pretty essential off the beaten track in 1995. Nobody knew English anywhere. You hadd to point to the characters in the guidebook and hope that bystanders put you on the right bus.
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:49 PM
 
Location: NW Seattle
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The US in general away from the biggest cities, the touristy smaller cities (New Orleans, Charleston SC), and the national parks. It's expensive to travel internationally and now all the borders are closed, so this is what I do.

I've had a great time road-tripping across eastern Washington, eastern Oregon, and Idaho with friends, and found interesting things to do ahead of time in many of the cities and towns out there --- from the Redmond Caves in Redmond, OR to the Eocene fossil beds in Republic, WA where you can keep the fossils you dig up. And they've had a great time too, and have told me they never would have thought to visit those areas and now want to organize their own road trips.

Two weeks from now, my partner and I will be road-tripping across rural Illinois, and we have a huge itinerary of things to see.
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