Legal marijuana what do you think about it? (Spokane, Kennewick: 2015, credit card)

[j_k_k]

There's a class in law school where they anesthetize them and perform a lobotomy-like operation on the shame center in the brain, removing forever all ability to feel compunction. Thereafter, all actions are considered without reference to any moral compass. In fairness, they probably couldn't do their jobs well if they retained a moral compass.

[Mtn. States Resident]

Originally Posted by j_k_k

There's a class in law school where they anesthetize them and perform a lobotomy-like operation on the shame center in the brain, removing forever all ability to feel compunction. Thereafter, all actions are considered without reference to any moral compass. In fairness, they probably couldn't do their jobs well if they retained a moral compass.

You Crack me up, j.k.k.

MSR

[Mtn. States Resident]

Originally Posted by M3 Mitch

MSR, back in the days I was around it, I'm talking just smoke. A few heavy-duty hippies made pot brownies, but that was relatively rare.

I guess it's possible that edibles cause a different reaction. If this guy is or was on some sort of meds for his mental issues - what can I say, people on such meds should consider carefully if they want to add some recreational pharmaceuticals to the mix.

I'm just reporting back from the 70's, mostly, about what I saw and experienced there.

Of course the lawyer is going to try to argue "the pot made him do it", it's what he's paid to do. Sort of like the "Twinkie Defense".

Mitch,

To me, the "good part" of this trial is learning more about the differences in what each state allows, specifically what Colorado has been selling for edibles and inhalants. I don't judge what people did whenever in their lives. I only judge CDF posterd who haven't been fair to me.

I know it is difficult to believe, but from all the previous medical, family and friend reports, that husband displayed no signs os psychosis prior to that day. His Toxicology report showed no prescription drugs, no illicit drugs and no alcohol. He only showed the THC and looked pretty psychotic. The reports of the teen and college student were the same. It is frightening to me to think one dose could cause a psychotic break.

To me the logical questions would start with who was supplying what is being grown and packaged in CO? Was a new, stronger plant or two introduced? My gut tells me probably the strength of what is being eaten in candy size pieces in CO is stronger or yields other harmful byproducts that is different than WA. IDK for sure, but it's worth following. It appears from the hits this thread has a few others are reading info as well.

I found the inventory that was given to CO drivers and WA drivers. Check it and let me know what you think Correlates of Marijuana Drugged Driving and Openness to Driving While High: Evidence from Colorado and Washington. - PubMed - NCBI

MSR

[j_k_k]

Originally Posted by Mtn. States Resident

You Crack me up, j.k.k.

MSR

Just another service I offer with a smile.

[Mtn. States Resident]

What is PNNL'S policy about MJ ?

MSR

[MrTudo]

[Mtn. States Resident]

I'm thinking it is time to post a question in the General U.S. thread. I suspect there will be many comments, if the moderator allows the thread to remain. I apologize for using this example today. I feel like there are a lot of comments in that forum that are not productive and I don't want to be used for target practice. The condescending remarks, and bias of some from CA and elsewhere I don't like. Maybe that forum draws some who have poor impulse control, I don't know. Plus comments directed at some because they have lived in Seattle are mean and far beyond ignorant, IMO.

For those who have posted in that forum, any suggestions to have a more productive discussion? My interests in THC are testing driver's for DUI, trying to learn what might be happening in CO with edibles, by-products, and the concentration of THC in each edible as trying to think about the Schizophrenic- looking pictures of those who have injured or killed themselves or others.

I don't want to post in the CO forum.

Can anyone think of a better forum that enough people visit, besides General? There are some very intelligent posters who share their knowledge in the General or City to City forums. IDK that all forums draw the same level of thinkers and those who will search for information they may know.

All comments would be appreciated Besides, I want to learn more about Tri-Cities. I have questions about the rivers and much more.

TIA for your recommendations and coaching.

MSR

[M3 Mitch]

You could try the Great Debates forum, although you need to clean up the original premise and put it into the Great Debate format.

Really, this being a general forum, not some elite MENSA only or whatever (as if they are much better behaved!) I would consider this thread quite successful. There are the occasional wiseacres, as on most threads, but seems to me mostly serious discussion.

I see the underlying problem with the whole DUI industry as being that it's not based on scientific evidence that there is a "hockey stick" type curve at some level of alcohol or THC in the blood, (where one's level of impairment goes up in a sudden and non-linear fashion with a small increased increment of intoxicant) instead it's just good old Puritanical prohibition-lite. And a way for local governments to shake down a class of people (those who drive after drinking) who are considered unworthy of protection under the law for money.

In my own experience, 1970's stoners were not really dangerous drivers. Drunks were and still are. Maybe that's because 1970's pot was quite weak compared to what is available today.

At the end of the day, though, I think Washington's legalization has been on the whole a positive, a real world positive in the sense that it takes a bad situation (prohibition) and turns it into a less bad but still far from ideal situation (what we have now).

[Mtn. States Resident]

Originally Posted by M3 Mitch

You could try the Great Debates forum, although you need to clean up the original premise and put it into the Great Debate format.

Really, this being a general forum, not some elite MENSA only or whatever (as if they are much better behaved!) I would consider this thread quite successful. There are the occasional wiseacres, as on most threads, but seems to me mostly serious discussion.

I see the underlying problem with the whole DUI industry as being that it's not based on scientific evidence that there is a "hockey stick" type curve at some level of alcohol or THC in the blood, (where one's level of impairment goes up in a sudden and non-linear fashion with a small increased increment of intoxicant) instead it's just good old Puritanical prohibition-lite. And a way for local governments to shake down a class of people (those who drive after drinking) who are considered unworthy of protection under the law for money.

In my own experience, 1970's stoners were not really dangerous drivers. Drunks were and still are. Maybe that's because 1970's pot was quite weak compared to what is available today.

At the end of the day, though, I think Washington's legalization has been on the whole a positive, a real world positive in the sense that it takes a bad situation (prohibition) and turns it into a less bad but still far from ideal situation (what we have now).

Mitch,

I probably wasn't quite clear enough. I see this thread as being very successful here. Plus the few comments here and there are nothing compared to the parranas in General or City to City. I'm not against this thread in anyway. I want to try to learn more of what I suspect some CO residents know. Plus I have other questions for this forum and I don't want to be the major poster in the forum.

For now, it's fine to leave here. When I have time I'll try to find out more info.

As always, thanks Mitch.

MSR

[Mtn. States Resident]

I don't want this to get too political. Think of it as more food for thought with a huh?

I saw news today that Libertarian Pres. Candidate Gary Johnson was near 10% in the national polls. He can participate in the national debates when he is polling at 15%.

Some say he could easily get Colorado, New Mexico and maybe even Oregon's votes. Obviously, the popular vote doesn't elect Presidents, it is the electoral college.

WA was also discussed. IDK if Johnson could win WA. His unifying theme is making pot legal everywhere. He has other things too, but he's most known for his views on MJ. Many think he would take more votes away from Clinton than Trump. I could see him winning in CO and maybe a few other states. What do you think? Could Gary Johnson be a candidate WA voters would support?

MSR