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I believe that the killer or killers know the Ramseys and were at the Christmas party. I wonder if they tested all of those party goers DNA? I also think that the Ramseys know who the killed Jon Benet.
You know there was a fake 911 call from the Raseys house the day before when the Ramsey were entertaining thirty people, the perps that killed JB could have then stuck up a tapped their phone then and tested it to see if Patty would call 911 on the morning of the murder.
12-23 Mistaken 911 Call. At 6:47 p.m., someone attending the party placed a 911 call, which was answered by police dispatcher Therese Hilleary. The caller hung up without saying anything. Police call back only to get the Ramsey's anwering machine. Officer "B.O. 266" goes to the home at 6:54 p.m. and leaves at 7:09 p.m., after being assured that there was no emergency (timeline). The Daily Times-Call places the call at 6:48, but corroborates most other details above.
To clarify, I happen to think the ransom letter was genuine.The letter was of more threating the Raseys they woud kill JB if they call the law, and thats exactly what they did.
To clarify, I happen to think the ransom letter was genuine.The letter was of more threating the Raseys they woud kill JB if they call the law, and thats exactly what they did.
When did they kill her? When Arnt was in the house?
The note didn't feel threatening at all imo. It seemed all over the place and immature. I can't imagine a hardened murderer sitting down and writing that.
When did they kill her? When Arnt was in the house?
The note didn't feel threatening at all imo. It seemed all over the place and immature. I can't imagine a hardened murderer sitting down and writing that.
Mr. Ramsey,
Listen carefully! We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction. We do respect your businessbut not the country that it serves. At this time we have your daughter in our possession . She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to see 1997, you must follow our instructions to the letter.
You will withdraw $118,000.00 from your account. $100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining $18,000 in $20 bills. Make sure that you bring an adequate size attache to the bank. When you get home you will put the money in a brown paper bag. I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence a earlier delivery pick-up of your daughter.
Any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter. You will also be denied her remains for proper burial. The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you not to provoke them. Speaking to anyone about your situation, such as Police, F.B.I., etc., will result in your daughter being beheaded. If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you alert bank authorities, she dies. If the money is in any way marked or tampered with, she dies. You will be scanned for electronic devices and if any are found, she dies. You can try to deceive us but be warned that we are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics. You stand a 99% chance of killing your daughter if you try to out smart us. Follow our instructions and you stand a 100% chance of getting her back.
You and your family are under constant scrutiny as well as the authorities. Don't try to grow a brain John. You are not the only fat cat around so don't think that killing will be difficult. Don't underestimate us John. Use that good southern common sense of yours. It is up to you now John!
I believe there were three perps,we are a small group of individuals, two are watching over JB
(The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you not to provoke them)
and one writing the letter.( Any deviation of MY instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter.)
Also there were two unidentified foot prints by JB body,
Footprints in Basement. "Several recently-made unidentified shoeprints were found in the basement, imprinted in mold growing on the basement floor. (SMF P 151; PSMF P 151.) In particular, a shoeprint of a "HI-TEC" brand mark on the sole of a shoe was found. (SMF P 152; PSMF P 152.) Defendants do not own any "HI-TEC" brand shoes, and none of the shoes found in their home match the shoeprint marks. (SMF P 153; PSMF P 153.) Another partial shoeprint was found near where JonBenet's body was found. (SMF P 155; PSMF P 155.) This shoeprint left only a partial logo. The owner of the "HI-TEC" shoe that made the shoeprints at the murder scene has never been identified. (SMF P 154, 155; PSMF P 154, 155.)" (Carnes 2003:19).
I never quite understood through the transcripts or anywhere else who got up first -- John or Patsy. John stated in a police transcript that he got up just before the alarm was set to go off at 5:30 a.m. When did Patsy get up? Or did she never go to bed at all, as she was wearing the same clothing from the previous night's party? And why, after calling all their friends for consolation while they "waited," did they not sit together, but in two different groups? Wouldn't a husband and wife fearing for their child naturally comfort each other?
I recently read the transcripts by Patsy and she said she got up early, started walking down the stairs and found the note lying there, on the stairs. She looked in JonBenet's room and saw that she was gone, then raced back to the bedroom and woke John up.
So he said he woke up just before the alarm was supposed to go off at 5:30? Their stories don't match.
Listen carefully! We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction. We do respect your businessbut not the country that it serves. At this time we have your daughter in our possession . She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to see 1997, you must follow our instructions to the letter.
You will withdraw $118,000.00 from your account. $100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining $18,000 in $20 bills. Make sure that you bring an adequate size attache to the bank. When you get home you will put the money in a brown paper bag. I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence a earlier delivery pick-up of your daughter.
Any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter. You will also be denied her remains for proper burial. The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you not to provoke them. Speaking to anyone about your situation, such as Police, F.B.I., etc., will result in your daughter being beheaded. If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you alert bank authorities, she dies. If the money is in any way marked or tampered with, she dies. You will be scanned for electronic devices and if any are found, she dies. You can try to deceive us but be warned that we are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics. You stand a 99% chance of killing your daughter if you try to out smart us. Follow our instructions and you stand a 100% chance of getting her back.
You and your family are under constant scrutiny as well as the authorities. Don't try to grow a brain John. You are not the only fat cat around so don't think that killing will be difficult. Don't underestimate us John. Use that good southern common sense of yours. It is up to you now John!
Victory!
S.B.T.C
not threatening at all?
All the bold, sounds either nonsensical, comical, or disorganized to me. Why would you kidnap someone for money (as the note is suggesting) if you feel it's likely to fail (99%)? The note only makes sense knowing Jonbenet is dead.
All the bold, sounds either nonsensical, comical, or disorganized to me. Why would you kidnap someone for money (as the note is suggesting) if you feel it's likely to fail (99%)? The note only makes sense knowing Jonbenet is dead.
Thats my theory the perps were holding out in the basement for the money.But when pasty call 911 with the phone tapped they listened into, they knew they would get the law and lefted out of there
There are historical examples of notes used successfully to secure ransoms even in cases where the kidnap victims were killed both before and after the notes were written. Thus, the fact that JBR was found dead cannot itself be taken as definitive proof that the RN was not genuine.
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