Can you get away with murder? (husband, zodiac, today, homicides)

[Coolhand68]

Another thing to remember, there is no statute of limitations for murder. If you killed someone 50 years ago and blab about it, you can still be convicted. As Twinkle Toes stated, keep your mouth shut.

[D3stiny]

Interesting.

[jtur88]

Originally Posted by Annie53

I think a lot of people get away with murdering children too, considering how many are missing and never found.

However, there is rarely an incentive to kill a child. They have no life insurance, and are not involved in mafia or drug activities, and don't wield enough pathological domestic power for anyone to seek advantage in a final solution.

Most of the kids on milk cartons have just gone to live with a parent who was denied custody by the courts. The number of children who are taken by strangers and not found or returned within 48 hours is less than 100 a year. The disappearance of a child is always taken a great deal more seriously than the disappearance of an adult.

[tijlover]

If you're even contemplating/dreaming of committing a murder, you do some solid homework first. Read every true crime book you can get your hands on, and please, God forbid, don't do any research online, as that's all traceable, and leave that cellphone at home!

I'm currently reading Joe McGinniss' Never Enough. A laugh at every other page. The sloppiest murderess I've read about in ages.

Of course, the smartest killers, who will never be found, find great entertainment in reading true crime books, as, in their minds, it's only the idiots that are featured in these books.

[stevej64]

A hit man only worry is the guy who hired him.If you went out and killed a complete stranger and kept it to yourself chances are you will not be caught.Remember more than one person knows it is no longer a secret.

[GloryB]

Originally Posted by jtur88

Did it look like that?

No...I was just teasing you.

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I read somewhere that the best way to get by with a crime is to first see yourself arrested for it. Go through all the questions they would ask, evidence they would have, and back track to make sure none of those would come up.

[sugarmaple]

I think, for the most part, in theory one might be able to get away with murder -- I think planning everything out carefully; I agree with the above post - imagine every single solitary question that might be asked and be ready for either an answer or with a logical answer figure out how that would not happen -- I think some of the reasons someone does actually get caught is because they do tell someone; they make a teeny mistake from their written plan.

I had this conversation with a couple of law enforcement friends of mine - who laughed - of course and they did indicate that the longer the time passes w/out clues, suspect, etc the harder it is to find the perpetrator. However, they also explained to me that they have a pretty good process too -- find out about the person who is dead; who knows them; who would want them dead; etc. [logical, of course] - as our conversation continued I brought up possible scenarios such as, if I killed someone who lived out of state, I would use only cash to pay for gas; I would not stop anywhere to grab a cup of coffee that was not a crowded C-store; etc., so they advised me they would check all gas stations along the way and look at the cameras; they would check all C-stores serving coffee along the way...

[Twinkle Toes]

Originally Posted by sugarmaple

I think, for the most part, in theory one might be able to get away with murder -- I think planning everything out carefully; I agree with the above post - imagine every single solitary question that might be asked and be ready for either an answer or with a logical answer figure out how that would not happen -- I think some of the reasons someone does actually get caught is because they do tell someone; they make a teeny mistake from their written plan.

I had this conversation with a couple of law enforcement friends of mine - who laughed - of course and they did indicate that the longer the time passes w/out clues, suspect, etc the harder it is to find the perpetrator. However, they also explained to me that they have a pretty good process too -- find out about the person who is dead; who knows them; who would want them dead; etc. [logical, of course] - as our conversation continued I brought up possible scenarios such as, if I killed someone who lived out of state, I would use only cash to pay for gas; I would not stop anywhere to grab a cup of coffee that was not a crowded C-store; etc., so they advised me they would check all gas stations along the way and look at the cameras; they would check all C-stores serving coffee along the way...

Written plan? You DON'T want a written plan! Also, you don't want to take a cell phone with you. Don't even have one in the car with you!

[Annie53]

Looks like it is pretty easy to get away with murder...............


How Many Unsolved Murders?

[AnnieA]

Originally Posted by Annie53

I think a lot of people get away with murdering children too, considering how many are missing and never found.

I'll stand with you on this one. People don't want to get involved, etc, etc, etc, and some child is beaten and/or tortured to death.....

I post on another board that is a crime board and I mostly post about children. Most people can't deal with it, it is too horrible. And, yes, it is, but we need to bear witness to these childrens lives because a lot of the time they are a name in the paper and then are gone. And, if we don't speak out and make our voices heard that we will not tolerate crimes against children, the horror will continue.

So many people from all over the country spoke out about the slaughter of children in Denver, some new laws have been enacted. Now, whether they will be enforced, I don't know. That would be the answer.

Here is one that is so sad and the little fellow never had a chance.

NEWTON —
By Cristina Janney
Newton Kansan
The mother of a toddler who was murdered on March 27 in North Newton was sentenced to prison Thursday in Harvey County District Court.
Katheryn Nycole Dale, 21, was sentenced to 34 months in prison on a charge of child abuse and seven months on a charge of aggravated endangerment of a child.
District Judge Joe Dickinson ordered the sentences to run consecutively.
Dale was charged in connection with the death of her 19-month-old son, Vincent Hill.
Harvey County District Attorney David Yoder said Dale left Vincent alone with her boyfriend, Chad Carr, on the day of his death. Carr has been charged with murder and is awaiting trial.
“We are not alleging that Katheryn Nycole Dale caused Vincent Hill’s death. But it is the state’s position that she did knowingly did leave the child in a situation in which he lost his life by leaving him with a person, Chad Carr, who has been charged with murder, knowing he had perpetrated violence on him in the past.”
Yoder described Hill’s death as tragic but said Dale had the responsibility to protect her child from Carr since she knew Carr had stuffed cloth in his mouth to keep him quiet and had seen him shove and grab the boy.
The coroner testified in Carr’s preliminary hearing Hill died of a brain injury likely caused by suffocation. He also reported the boy had suffered other blunt force trauma.
During the investigation, Dale told investigators she jabbed a fork in her son’s mouth after he refused to eat.
During the autopsy, the corner found cuts in the boy’s mouth.
She also admitted to grabbing Vincent by the chin hard enough to leave bruises and slapping him in the face.
Dale had two juvenile convictions but no adult convictions. That made her eligible for probation.
Dale’s attorney said Dale was attending counseling and an anger management class.
He said Dale admitted to injuring Vincent’s mouth after extensive interrogation immediately following Vincent’s death and had been under duress....snipped....

the time she received was nothing as to what that child endured. I wrote the prosecuting attorney about it, as well as, the reporter covering the case. He said a lot of people were shocked at how little time she got.
Dead toddler