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12-26-2010, 12:11 AM
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Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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Here is one question i have always had for years about someone being murdered. maybe some of you can help??
lets say that a female sets up another male or female to become a victim without killing them themselves(basically making someone do it or helping a suspect commit his murder more easier). Will the person who set the person up be charged just as much as the killer??
another scenario lets say a girl has some type of beef with a dude and calls someone to handle the situation but then the situation gets so out of hand the person who was called to the disagreement ends up killing the person. Can the female who brought the suspect into the situation be charged for murder or receive similar penalties as the person who committed the crime?
Hope you guys can help or show some real life scenarios. Thanks  |
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12-26-2010, 12:17 AM
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How funny. I guess your BF didn't get you the diamonds you wanted from Zales? LMAO 
I'm glad I'm not your significant other.
This could really turn out bad if you really follow through because you caught your stud stuffing your best friend. 
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12-26-2010, 12:31 AM
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Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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Originally Posted by bulldogdad
How funny. I guess your BF didn't get you the diamonds you wanted from Zales? LMAO
I'm glad I'm not your significant other.
This could really turn out bad if you really follow through because you caught your stud stuffing your best friend.
News Alert
CNN - suspected murderer gets no sympathy when posting future crime on city data. |
very funny. But im not no criminal. im a criminology major, and these 2 questions have always seem to always be in my head especially after the fact that someone i knew was killed this way. |
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12-26-2010, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jordandubreil
very funny. But im not no criminal. im a criminology major, and these 2 questions have always seem to always be in my head especially after the fact that someone i knew was killed this way.
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Glad to amuse you. Murder is never fun. Try the true crime forum where this thread will probably get moved. |
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12-26-2010, 12:45 AM
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Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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Originally Posted by bulldogdad
Glad to amuse you. Murder is never fun. Try the true crime forum where this thread will probably get moved.
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o wow i was thinking about that but didnt think city-data would have one. Thanks. |
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12-26-2010, 04:22 AM
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Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by jordandubreil
very funny. But im not no criminal. im a criminology major, and these 2 questions have always seem to always be in my head especially after the fact that someone i knew was killed this way.
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You're a criminology major and don't know this?
The laws relating to murder vary from state to state. |
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12-26-2010, 04:57 AM
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Location: Dublin, CA
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Simple fact, at least in California and I'd expect most states: You are just as guilty as the person who pulled the trigger.
Grow up, get a life, and move on...
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12-26-2010, 07:27 AM
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Location: Elsewhere
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Originally Posted by jordandubreil
Here is one question i have always had for years about someone being murdered. maybe some of you can help??
lets say that a female sets up another male or female to become a victim without killing them themselves(basically making someone do it or helping a suspect commit his murder more easier). Will the person who set the person up be charged just as much as the killer??
another scenario lets say a girl has some type of beef with a dude and calls someone to handle the situation but then the situation gets so out of hand the person who was called to the disagreement ends up killing the person. Can the female who brought the suspect into the situation be charged for murder or receive similar penalties as the person who committed the crime?
Hope you guys can help or show some real life scenarios. Thanks |
I know of a similar real-life case. I was an alternate juror on the trial.
A group of teenage boys hung out together and sort of considered themselves a mafia-type group. Another boy, whom they considered a pest, became their target when he stopped drinking and not only preached abstinence from alcohol to the kids but ratted them out to somebody for underage drinking at one point. The self-appointed "leader" of the "mafia" group, and the only one who was 18 and therefore an adult, decided this kid had to die. The group would sit around planning ways to kill him, some of them completely ridiculous. But one of the boys, aged 17, was a loose cannon, and the older boy sort of pushed him along, promising that if he killed the other boy, he would speak to his supposed-mafioso uncle about getting him into the real mafia, basically to see if he would really do it.
And he did. The whacko kid took an outdoor electrical cord, doubled it over a few times, and then when they were in the victim's car with the victim and one of the other boys, told them they all had to say the Hail Mary and while they were praying, threw the electrical cord around his neck and strangled him to death. Two of the other boys were parked in a car nearby when it happened.
The 18-year-old was not present when the murder occurred, but he was charged with murder and convicted under NJ law, which provides for murder charges if someone kills someone else as agent.
The 17-year-old murderer was charged as an adult and is in prison with no possibility of parole for 40 years. The 18-year-old who told him to do it is in prison with no possibility of parole for 30 years. The other three kids, two aged 14 and one aged 17, were not tried as adults in exchange for pleading guilty and testifying against the other two, and they each were sentenced to 20 years, no parole until after 15 years. The kicker is that the prosecutors promised the kids they would recommend that their sentences be reduced so that they could get out after 7 years in exchange for their testimony. After all the trials, they went to court with that recommendation and the judge said no. They had to do their 20, minimum of 15. They could have stopped the murder, and they did nothing.
One of the reporters wrote a book about the murder.
Amazon.com: Pray for Us Sinners: The Hail Mary Murder (9780446602891): Fredrick Kunkle: Books |
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12-26-2010, 08:32 AM
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Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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Laws vary from state to state, but generally, yes.
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12-26-2010, 03:00 PM
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Location: Coachella Valley, California
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Originally Posted by jordandubreil
Here is one question i have always had for years about someone being murdered. maybe some of you can help??
lets say that a female sets up another male or female to become a victim without killing them themselves(basically making someone do it or helping a suspect commit his murder more easier). Will the person who set the person up be charged just as much as the killer??
another scenario lets say a girl has some type of beef with a dude and calls someone to handle the situation but then the situation gets so out of hand the person who was called to the disagreement ends up killing the person. Can the female who brought the suspect into the situation be charged for murder or receive similar penalties as the person who committed the crime?
Hope you guys can help or show some real life scenarios. Thanks |
Ever heard of 'conspiracy to commit murder'? How about 'accomplice liability'? |
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