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Juror 3 says "I did not say she was innocent, I said there was not enough evidence to convict her of the crime. You cannot determine the punishment if you cannot prove what the crime was." Something like that, not an exact quote but very close.
When the jury has questions about jury instructions, the Judge cannot explain any further than RE-READING the instructions. What happens is that the jury would be brought back into the courtroom, after sending a written communication to the Court, and then the Court will Re-Read the instructions.
So if the jury has a hard copy of the jury instructions in the jury room with them, they can simply re-read the instructions for themselves. I believe it is the practice in most courtrooms in Florida now to provide a copy of the jury instructions to the jury when they go out to deliberate.
I'd have to check but I think I remember the judge saying he was keeping all copies.
Wait. The first sentence. It's a bit confusing. If she retained a publicist while she was still a juror... Isn't that illegal? (It's implied if he put something in the media packets.) If this had been known before the verdict she'd have been bounced. That is a violation of the judge's instructions. Isn't it? Legal experts?
Personally, I think profiting like this is blood money. You don't make money because of the death of a little kid. Disgusting to me.
Nothing confusing at all Juror # 6
THE SALESMAN
The 33-year-old married white man has two children, ages 6 and 22 months. He has a business degree and sells restaurant equipment. Throughout the proceedings, he has had trouble staying awake during the dry scientific testimony.
Each juror received a packet when the trial was over (that was announced in the courtroom news conference) with media info in it. So Juror #6 gets home yesterday and hires Rick French ... gave him the info and said "go get it Mr. French, get me all the money you can and I will talk."
This morning (probably started last night) Rick French sends letters or emails whatever out to the media outlets ... for a price Juror #6 will tell all.
That's the strange thing. George testified twice that it smelled like death because he was an ex-cop and familiar with the smell. Yet he didn't call the police or report it. It wasn't until Cindy found out the smell could have been from death that she called and reported it - I suppose George told her. A number of defense witness who smelled it also said that it was indistinguishable from a garbage-like smell.
Not to mention that the tow truck guy actually pulled out a bag of maggot infested trash - which had to at least contribute to the smell.
I can't explain why George didn't call the police - that part defies logic unless
Cindy was chirping in his ear at the tow yard.
You think the trash contributed to the smell ? Then why did the car smell 2 years later after the trash was removed ? Cindy is a nurse and knows what a decomposing body smells like.
And I think HLN is protifing from "blood money." They shouldn't be making money because of the death of a little girl and from whipping people up into a frenzy by the constant sensationalizing of this case. It is certainly unethical.
Okay, child's remains "decomposed" in yard. Too hard to dig grave there. If accident, why take the remains anywhere? Why not call the authorities--"An accident just happened with the child here in the yard." Why relocate the body elsewhere? Why? What motivation to hide the body? Why? No, even without any evidence of her throwing body in woods, case ( would be a slam dunk then). You do not need to see an obvious activity to come to a logical conclusion if you can think things through.
Are you saying there is only one explanation for that kind of behavior? I would think that a person would hide a body to prevent people from finding out that person is dead. If that's the goal why in the world would anyone call the police?
Can I imagine that's what happened? Of course. But it's certainly not the only explanation.
I'll make you a deal. You stop blaming the justice system and calling the jury "morons" because they didn't go against their legal duty to settle your emotional vendetta, and I'll stop reminding you why your side lost.
Deal?
Deal.
For me, if I were on that jury (and I'm not calling anyone a moron in saying this), there's no way on earth I would have voted not guilty. Even if by the strictest definition of the term as instructed by the judge that was the right verdict, I still wouldn't have voted not guilty. I honestly don't see how these people (not morons!) can sleep at night. Yes, they did what they were "supposed" to do. But for me, I couldn't do it, even if it resulted in some type of "punishment". This girl was guilty of a lot, we know that for sure. And that's all I have to say on the matter.
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And I think HLN is protifing from "blood money." They shouldn't be making money because of the death of a little girl and from whipping people up into a frenzy by the constant sensationalizing of this case. It is certainly unethical.
You have a point here. I will confess that if I hear the term "TOT MOM" screeched by Nancy Grace one more time I will feel like puking ...
THE SALESMAN
The 33-year-old married white man has two children, ages 6 and 22 months. He has a business degree and sells restaurant equipment. Throughout the proceedings, he has had trouble staying awake during the dry scientific testimony.
Each juror received a packet when the trial was over (that was announced in the courtroom news conference) with media info in it. So Juror #6 gets home yesterday and hires Rick French ... gave him the info and said "go get it Mr. French, get me all the money you can and I will talk."
This morning (probably started last night) Rick French sends letters or emails whatever out to the media outlets ... for a price Juror #6 will tell all.
WHAT did they need that for? Was there a booklet entitled, "How to Get Rich Quick or At Least Become a Thousandaire" enclosed also?
AFAI am concerned, they should all have been given instructions that being chosen for the jury means NO PAID INTERVIEWS, no books, etc., after the trial is over. Is that not allowed in this country or something? Is there an inalienable right to make a fast buck off being a juror deciding on a tragedy somewhere in the Bill of Rights I missed? Odious, just odious.
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Legal experts?