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Old 12-26-2011, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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ahhaha well I've gone to jail twice, once for being stupid and once for false charges which were dropped by the judge as soon as I was in court. Both were minor misdemeanors
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Old 12-26-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Default This is true....

Many people arrested for various things, Most folks I have encountered arrested were for misdemeanors .

I have never been, However.
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Old 12-27-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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I have not ever been arrested, but I have ridden in police cars several times...last time, with my Mom...two years ago...Christmas...we should make that our new family tradition....
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Old 12-27-2011, 02:47 PM
 
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That's sad, but completely believable. I beat the odds too though. Now if only I can find out the average number of tickets everybody has by that age, I could find out if I beat that too.
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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Lawyers making laws that benefit............Lawyers ! What a surprise....Legislators trying to make a name for themselves, I believe its gotten way out of hand. Even after people complete their sentence/punishment it follows them forever.Who cares what someone did 2o yrs ago ??

The problem is too many Americans are gullible/naive, they think the American criminal justice system is Weak or something.Meanwhile, we have more people in prison for longer periods of time than anyone else in the world.The only thing that will stop this idiocy is budget shortfalls...hopefully.
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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I suspect that most of the crimes that resulted in an actual arrest (as opposed to a citation) were drug-related. We Americans have yet to figure out what we want to do about the drug problem. It ought to be clear to anyone that simply filling the jails full of drug offenders is an inadequate and expensive solution. When we consider the problems that alcoholism has created for society it seems incongruous to make a huge deal out of marijuana use. Yet in many small communities in the Midwest and the South it is considered a "big deal".

Many offenders could be dealt with better inside the confines of an effective drug or alcohol treatment program than inside a prison system or jail.

I don't have all the answers on this one, but I'm convinced that there are better and more cost-effective alternatives than what we are currently doing.
Most Western countries have tried and rejected the "Just Say No" and criminalization policies of the US. I think the only reason we keep it criminalized is because there are a lot of palms being greased with drug money, not to mention our own government being caught multiple times, smuggling the stuff in, often in the caskets of supposedly dead servicemen.

It seems that a more effective system might be a sliding scale of criminalization, depending on how harmful the drug is, and lots of rehab opportunities. It usually takes several rehab bouts before a person can turn his life around. This still, in the long run, should be less expensive than prison.

Almost every family I know (middle class America) has a kid who has or had a drug problem. None of these has gone to jail, but they are mostly dregs on society and not productive with positive lives at all. A source of constant heartache for their parents. This is a problem that I think permeates society and, yes, our current way of handling it is not working.

So I am for trying a sliding scale of legalization. This will at least take away some of the profit that is corrupting our politicians and police.

I know that everyone has rough times to go through and is vulnerable to drugs at one time or another, and families try to cover up the fact that a member has a drug problem. I think if people saw the destruction they were playing with maybe they would not be so quick in saying 'yes'.
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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ahhaha well I've gone to jail twice, once for being stupid and once for false charges which were dropped by the judge as soon as I was in court. Both were minor misdemeanors
Yeah. This false charge thing can be serious. When DNA testing became accepted Indiana tested all on death row and found that a third were innocent - and they were just the crimes for which DNA was available. The governor refused to kill anyone on death row.

Britain went through the entire prison population with DNA testing and freed all those found innocent. Look at how hard it is in this country to get an innocent guy out of jail, even when you have the money to get an attorney to try to reopen your case or if you have the Innocence Project working for you.
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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It's ridiculous when drunk driving can be a felony !!
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:38 PM
 
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I think, for a minor crime like using drugs or petty shoplifting, a person should have a way to clear their record, maybe have it automatically clear (like driving infractions do) over so much time, with an option to speed the process if you do community service after you get out, drug counseling or something.

Theft from those you work for, I would not be lenient about, or invading a person's home or threatening a person.
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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It's ridiculous when drunk driving can be a felony !!
I don't know about that. It is easier to have that crime result in death of others.

There is a difference, though, between driving down a deserted country road at night at a slow speed and doing the speed limit on a highway around rush hour.
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