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Old 06-12-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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He was NOT a surfer.

He was a golfer.

And from what I've read of him he was "way cool" only in his own mind.
say no more...I know what really goes on out on those greens
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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On a sidebar, for you "crime junkies." Yes, I have another friend, a close friend who I work out with quite often. He is a Sgt at San Quentin, assigned to death row. Scott Peterson receives BAG LOADS of mail, every week, from women, all over the world, with marriage proposals. Many of these women send photos, of shall we say, different stages of compromise? Many of these women are, in my friends words, "Hotter then hell."
Two things:

1) I've heard this, and I believe it.
2) Women who are "hotter than hell" in looks, but not in brains.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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He was NOT a surfer.

He was a golfer.

And from what I've read of him he was "way cool" only in his own mind.
Ok, whatever, having gone to college in Calif., there are certain profiles that go with the low-GPA business major.

Surfer-golfer-waiter-frat boy combination, or some combination thereof. Then, he goes into selling fertilizer.

I just said surfer because he comes from San Diego and came off as one who might have done that in his youth. He was, however, a waiter. Almost everyone I knew in college that waited on tables in chain restaurants was glib and superficial. At least, that's what I saw.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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LOL tell your friend that they're crazier than hell, and probably send SOMEONE ELSE'S PHOTO!

lol...

So - he's guilty? You say it wasn't a slam dunk but the homemade anchors imply it was? Bit confused there....

You don't happen to know anyone who worked on JBR do you?
Yes, he is guilty and I personally believe him to be so. However, that is a personal opinion and not based upon any jury instructions. Like I said earlier, the evidence is entirely circumstantial; yet, most murder cases are. The problem is, I doubt he will ever see the death penalty.

This November there is a ballot initiative in California, banning the death penalty. It will convert everyone on death row to life without possibility of parole. I believe it will pass, due to the fact everyone is running around talking about money (another thread for that).


I'm not sure who "JBR" is???
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:11 PM
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I'm sure there are other murderers in the general population that aren't trophies. Does that mean that he is more likely to be harmed than others? Is is the sensationalism of the trial and such that makes him a "trophy?"

He killed his own BABY !
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:14 PM
 
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Yes, he is guilty and I personally believe him to be so. However, that is a personal opinion and not based upon any jury instructions. Like I said earlier, the evidence is entirely circumstantial; yet, most murder cases are. The problem is, I doubt he will ever see the death penalty.

This November there is a ballot initiative in California, banning the death penalty. It will convert everyone on death row to life without possibility of parole. I believe it will pass, due to the fact everyone is running around talking about money (another thread for that).
I happen to agree with you. I worked in the court's criminal division at the time Peterson was arrested. Privy to a lot of information that the general public didn't know. Base on evidence (and lack of it), we all wondered if he'd walk. Personally, I think what put the nail in his coffin (so to speak) was Amber Frey. Had she not come forward and helped with the investigation, Peterson may have gone free. Fortunate that the circumstantial evidence dots connected. The storage unit was key, too. And didn't they find one of Lacy's hair in the boat? If memory serves, I don't think he owned that boat very long and Lacy had never gone out in the boat. That wouldn't prove guilt though since there was no way to prove she hadn't. The investigators did an excellent job of finding everything they could find.

The guy is everything you said. Sociopath, narcissistic psychopath, for sure. Nothing worse than an arrogant sob who would want to get in one last round of golf before heading for the Mexican border. Bad dye job on his hair and goatee, too.

I was never so glad to see a change of venue in that case. It was a media circus and pathetic to watch some of the young women hanging around outside the courthouse, thinking this slime was a rock star.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:19 PM
 
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I believe Peterson is guilty. I also believe its an inappropriate case for the death penalty. For starters, there are no witnesses. There is no proof about how Lacey was killed. I think whenever a killing occurs in the context of a marriage, the death penalty should be rare or nonexistent. The marital relationship can produce some intense emotional feelings that are different than a robber deciding to kill his victim, or a sex criminal choosing to murder his prey. Peterson is unlikely to end up receiving the death penalty and I suspect it will all end up being a bigger waste of tax money in a state with a 17 billion dollar deficit than just keeping him in prison would be.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:37 PM
 
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I believe Peterson is guilty. I also believe its an inappropriate case for the death penalty. For starters, there are no witnesses. There is no proof about how Lacey was killed.
You think that matters? Really? Considering that her body floated up from the bottom of the bay but not before her baby's body was expelled from her body? Or that her body was not intact?

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I think whenever a killing occurs in the context of a marriage, the death penalty should be rare or nonexistent. The marital relationship can produce some intense emotional feelings that are different than a robber deciding to kill his victim, or a sex criminal choosing to murder his prey.
If you're married, does your wife know you feel this way?

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Peterson is unlikely to end up receiving the death penalty and I suspect it will all end up being a bigger waste of tax money in a state with a 17 billion dollar deficit than just keeping him in prison would be
He's already received the death penalty. Carrying out the sentence is the problem. The courts decided that lethal injection may not be as painless as claimed, thereby causing a number of doctors to back out from participating.

Isn't it nice that we care so much about not wanting to cause any pain to Mr. Peterson by injecting him? It must warm the cockles of his heart, knowing he's getting better consideration than he gave to Lacy and Connor.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:37 PM
 
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Do you all remember the Scott Peterson trial? He was found guilty of murdering his wife, Lacy Rocha Peterson, and unborn child.

Scott Peterson was a "way cool" surfer/waiter type student at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. I don't know if he graduated or not. I believe he met Lacy there. They then returned to one of the bigger towns in California's Central Valley where they lived a suburban life. Interestingly enough, he was a fertilizer salesman to the huge farming industry there.

The whole thing was weird. After her disappearance, he got involved in "looking for her," making public appeals. I remember when the whole thing blew apart. I had just come back from a vacation in South America and was sitting in the hotel breakfast area in Fort Lauderdale, watching the TV while I ate. The news announced that Lacy's body had washed ashore in the Bay Area. He evidently took her out in a boat from one of the marinas in the Bay Area one night and dumped her into the Bay, thinking he could "hide" the evidence. He then grew a beard, and escaped to Mexico. But they found him.

A lot of questions: Why did he marry her in the first place if he wanted his freedom? Did he do this because he wanted to be with Amber Frey? Is there any background/familial data on him that he would indicate why he was so sociopathic? Did he have a prior record?
A lot of people get married for all kinds of reasons despite not really wanting to get married, such as family/peer pressure and money. Also, some people get married and then change their minds about everything a few years down the road.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:54 PM
 
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You think that matters? Really? Considering that her body floated up from the bottom of the bay but not before her baby's body was expelled from her body? Or that her body was not intact?
Legally, it does matter how and why she was killed. How the body was disposed of is another question.


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If you're married, does your wife know you feel this way?
I've had this exact discussion with her. Neither of us are fond of the death penalty period because its irrevocable if you make a mistake. Unlike my wife, I support it in some situations. Too much is not known about this particular case for me to support it.

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He's already received the death penalty. Carrying out the sentence is the problem. The courts decided that lethal injection may not be as painless as claimed, thereby causing a number of doctors to back out from participating.
I get tired of posting this because too many are simply too clueless to get it. But than America is so full of lots of people who don't do much thinking these days that it makes me ashamed. The important point though is the US Supreme Court requires a long and lengthy review process before an execution can be carried out. If that bothers you, you need only think of about several dozen innocent people who were freed from death row during the last 30 years when evidence emerged that someone else had committed the crime. You can blah, blah, blah me all day long that "Scott Peterson is guilty and this is different". No it isn't different. We have to have one review process for everyone on death row. We don't make exceptions because YOU or anyone else thinks this person or that person should be an exception. I will guarantee that the issues on review in this case are deeper than whether a doctor will administer a lethal injection in California.

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Isn't it nice that we care so much about not wanting to cause any pain to Mr. Peterson by injecting him? It must warm the cockles of his heart, knowing he's getting better consideration than he gave to Lacy and Connor.
Sarcasm is sarcasm. Its not an argument. I have no idea how much pain Lacey felt (or didn't feel) before she was killed.
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