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Old 09-04-2012, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Northern Illinois
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I just happened upon this while scrolling through the news online and wonder if anyone besides myself thinks this is patently ridiculous? Do you think taxpayers should have to pay for crap like this? He has a life sentence - for murdering his wife years ago. The prisoner....er, patient thinks the surgery is medically necessary and "she" would be endangered if allowed to remain in a male prison after her surgery. Prison officials unsure of how to house him/her after surgery. He/she feels this is an entitlement and in the same category as heart surgery or hip replacement surgery. He needs a head operation,not an ass operation. If the judge wants to grant it then HE should have to pay for it himself, or let this guy's family pay for it. How many other inmates are there who will jump on this bandwagon of free sex assignment surgeries? Who pays for the lifetime of psychiatrists after the physical part is over? He/she isn't going anywhere with a life sentence under his belt - what's the point of the surgery anyway? If the hormones are stopped - the deal is over - he reverts back to what he was at birth, someone who never learned to accept the reality of who he is - and took another life to boot. What a slap in the face.....



BOSTON — A federal judge on Tuesday ordered state prison officials to provide taxpayer-funded sex-reassignment surgery to a transgender inmate serving life in prison for murder.
Michelle Kosilek was born male but has received hormone treatments and now lives as a woman in an all-male prison. Robert Kosilek was convicted of murder in the killing of his wife in 1990.
U.S. District Judge Mark Wolf is believed to be the first federal judge to order prison officials to provide sex-reassignment surgery for a transgender inmate.
Kosilek first sued the Massachusetts Department of Correction 12 years ago. Two years later, Wolf ruled that Kosilek was entitled to treatment for gender-identity disorder but stopped short of ordering surgery. Kosilek sued again in 2005, arguing that the surgery is a medical necessity.
In his ruling Tuesday, Wolf found that surgery is the "only adequate treatment" for Kosilek's "serious medical need."
"The court finds that there is no less intrusive means to correct the prolonged violation of Kosilek's Eighth Amendment right to adequate medical care," Wolf wrote in his 126-page ruling.
Prison officials have repeatedly cited security risks in the case, saying that allowing Kosilek to have the surgery would make her a target for sexual assaults by other inmates.
But Wolf, who was appointed to the federal bench by President Ronald Reagan in 1985, found that the security concerns are "either pretextual or can be dealt with." He said it would be up to prison officials to decide how and where to house Kosilek after the surgery.
Diane Wiffin, a spokeswoman for the prisons department, said the agency would have no immediate comment on the ruling.
"We are reviewing the decision and exploring our appellate options," Wiffin said.
In a telephone interview last year with The Associated Press, Kosilek said the surgery is a medical necessity, not a frivolous desire to change her appearance.
"Everybody has the right to have their health care needs met, whether they are in prison or out on the streets," Kosilek said. "People in the prisons who have bad hearts, hips or knees have surgery to repair those things. My medical needs are no less important or more important than the person in the cell next to me."
Wolf noted in his ruling that the Department of Correction's own medical experts testified that they believe surgery was the only adequate treatment for Kosilek.
The department's ex-commissioner Kathleen Dennehy testified that providing Kosilek the surgery would present insurmountable security concerns, but Wolf said Kosilek had proven that those purported concerns masked the real reason for denying surgery: "a fear of controversy, criticism, ridicule and scorn."
Kosilek's lawsuit has become fodder for radio talk shows and lawmakers who say the state should not be forced to pay for a convicted murderer's sex-change operation — which can cost up to $20,000 — especially since many insurance companies reject the surgery as elective.
Inmates in Colorado, California, Idaho and Wisconsin have sued unsuccessfully to try to get the surgery, making similar arguments that denying it violates the U.S. Constitution's protection against cruel and unusual punishment.
Wolf noted that Kosilek's gender-identity disorder has caused Kosilek such anguish that she has tried to castrate herself and twice tried to commit suicide, including once while on Prozac.
Kosilek's lead attorney, Frances Cohen, called the decision courageous and thoughtful.
"We feel very grateful that the judge listened very carefully to the medical experts and has given Michelle Kosilek what the prison doctors had recommended," Cohen said.
Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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Old 09-04-2012, 06:57 PM
 
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Great. People with jobs can't get health insurance for their kids to get shots....but killers get world class health care benefits. What is wrong with this picture?
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:18 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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the judge did say that the prison will be able to decide where he/she will be housed. how about the general population inside a male prison?
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Northern Illinois
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It's living in a male prison now. It wants to be moved to a woman's prison after it becomes a woman. I guess it won't be one of those girls who just wanna have fun...

It murdered its' wife in 1990 by strangling her with a wire and leaving her in a car at the mall. Allegedly, she poured hot water on its' genitals. Maybe it can't stand to look at them any longer. If it has had identity issues all its' life - I wonder why it married a woman in the first place.

This is just plain WRONG, IMHO.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:19 AM
 
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It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again

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Old 09-05-2012, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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I would like to know who appointed this judge.
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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I do not see this as an urgent medical necessity for someone who is expected to spend their life in prison. This medical project shouldn't have been started in prison in the first place.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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I would like to know who appointed this judge.
Wolf was nominated by President Ronald Reagan on March 8, 1985. Maybe the judge needs to retire ... been on the bench toooooo long.

This person has been suing the State of Mass since 2000 ... perhaps the state can appeal to a higher court.

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Old 09-06-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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Great. People with jobs can't get health insurance for their kids to get shots....but killers get world class health care benefits. What is wrong with this picture?
Prisoners normally get lousy, third-rate healthcare. Even people halfway through the process on the day they enter prison sare normally not alloowed to continue -- the hormone shots aren't cheap and the surgery is ruinous. This decision is a result of the lawsuits, nothing else.

Funny that a guy who murdered his wife would want to make himself into a woman. Has nobody in this country heard of divorce?
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