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Old 01-06-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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I guess people see different things.

Wasn't the sheriff quoted as saying that he didn't care if Avery did it or not, he was going to get him anyway?

And the composite over the mug shot inside a glass-covered frame screamed trophy to me.
Not sure if I heard that testimony about the sheriff...and thinking about it objectively if the police sketch artist believed they got the right guy why shouldn't he be proud of his part in the conviction?... It is a lot about the way people view the same facts differently!!!
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Not sure if I heard that testimony about the sheriff...and thinking about it objectively if the police sketch artist believed they got the right guy why shouldn't he be proud of his part in the conviction?... It is a lot about the way people view the same facts differently!!!
I didn't believe the sketch artist. I thought he was lying. That's not a fact, I guess, just my interpretation.
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:32 PM
 
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https://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/fo...154605397.html

A good read from excused juror Richard Mahler, who was released on the first day of deliberations for personal reasons. In a recent interview with Yahoo News and Finance Anchor Bianna Golodryga on “Yahoo News Live”.
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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This is the biggest problem I have with evidence used to convict SA: Allegedly, went to extreme measures to clean up any blood at the crime scene of his trailer/garage, a task that is all but impossible. Yet, SA left the vehicle in plain site and put the key inside his bedroom?

This makes no sense at all. Scary justice system we have!
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:48 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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https://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/fo...154605397.html

A good read from excused juror Richard Mahler, who was released on the first day of deliberations for personal reasons. In a recent interview with Yahoo News and Finance Anchor Bianna Golodryga on “Yahoo News Live”.
If you notice in the documentary that excused jurror started hanging around Brendan's mom and became very "involved" ...some would say overly so...
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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No one is disputing the first case. That is done and over with. No one is disputing that our sheriff department is possibly one of the most corrupt (and inept)
SD's in the state if not country.

Without getting into a huge list of specific's, go back and read what Annuvin said a few posts back. That alone is one of the keys to Avery's guilt. And then go into the prison talk forums in the years preceding the Halbach murder. He had a big mouth. The series eliminated so much information I would not know where to start.
Why don't you post a link to the trial transcripts or at least give up some salient points that make you think SA and BD are guilty? As far as prison talk, that is the least reliable hearsay ever!
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Old 01-06-2016, 06:06 PM
 
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I don't want a guilty man to go free. I mentioned to my wife this morning that it would be a terrible thing if Steven Avery were found innocent simply because the police were corrupt.
I somehow remembered this scene from Primal Fear... *shudder*


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbaW0HZ_Qy8

Nevertheless, this documentary on Steven Avery is pretty well done and quite compelling. My husband is right now in the middle of binge watching this because he's home sick from work. I'm sort of listening in the background, but hubby keeps pausing it to explain stuff to me. He's a pretty level headed guy so he'll also look into the rebuttals as well, but he's certainly mesmerized be this.

We're also watching this on the heals of looking into the whole mess in Oregon with the Hammonds, which made me more curious about Militia groups which made me read the Wikipedia article about Ruby Ridge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge

We are not partial to conspiracy theories, but there is absolutely no doubt that agencies that are bestowed with the public trust are capable of being inept and corrupt in some cases and it makes me wary.
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Old 01-06-2016, 06:20 PM
 
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If you notice in the documentary that excused jurror started hanging around Brendan's mom and became very "involved" ...some would say overly so...
I don't remember that part. He did seem more involved and interviewed than anybody else in the jury though. I don't know if this really leads to anything other than he feels some guilt about the situation and his part in it.
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Old 01-06-2016, 06:31 PM
 
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Everyone is so easily influenced by "propaganda" which is technically what the documentary is. It is a one sided look at his case that is pushing the agenda of the film makers.

Steven Avery is guilty. He is guilty of many things. Is he guilty of the murder he is in jail for? I don't know but he's not an upstanding member of society. He doused his family's cat and threw it into a fire. That is the behavior of a sociopath. Most serial killers start with animals...and most are white males
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Old 01-06-2016, 06:48 PM
 
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Everyone is so easily influenced by "propaganda" which is technically what the documentary is. It is a one sided look at his case that is pushing the agenda of the film makers.

Steven Avery is guilty. He is guilty of many things. Is he guilty of the murder he is in jail for? I don't know but he's not an upstanding member of society. He doused his family's cat and threw it into a fire. That is the behavior of a sociopath. Most serial killers start with animals...and most are white males
Can you share with us the evidence you are basing your guilty opinion on?
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