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Old 03-22-2021, 10:10 AM
 
Location: tampa bay
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We can only punish someone after they've been found guilty. That's a requirement under what is called due process(see here: https://discover.hubpages.com/politi...Process-Rights), and THAT'S how the system works. Law enforcement is not permitted to use state powers to harass someone and his family for decades because they suspect he's guilty of something. That appears to be precisely what's going on here. After 18 search warrants over 10 years, what do they expect to discover with number 19?

It's very myopic to say "well, I think he's guilty, so I don't care what the police do to him"... or ignore due process because we're sympathetic to a victim's family. That's a dangerous and foolish position.
What I am saying is it's not being done to "punish" anyone law enforcement has every right to pursue leads... just because you call it harassment doesn't make it so...with all the scientific progress that has been made since the original crime it's quite possible to still find evidence in this case...the police should just quit because you think they are being a nuisance???
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Old 03-23-2021, 09:10 AM
 
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What I am saying is it's not being done to "punish" anyone law enforcement has every right to pursue leads... just because you call it harassment doesn't make it so...with all the scientific progress that has been made since the original crime it's quite possible to still find evidence in this case...the police should just quit because you think they are being a nuisance???
I think you'd be hard pressed to explain what scientific developments have emerged in the last 10 years(not 25) which would justify 20 additional search warrants of the family's properties and the seizure of their vehicles. This isn't just a personal opinion of mine, any reasonable person would consider that a nuisance.

Is there any number that would cause you to consider this is being done maliciously? 50 searches in 10 years? 100? All of which, it should be noted, have proven unfruitful. I mean, they seized his mother's 1985 VW restoration project. What could possibly justify that?
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Old 04-13-2021, 04:23 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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Paul Flores and his father Ruben have finally been arrested...this is why you never quit in pursuit of a murderer...No bail for Paul...250k for Ruben...thank you to all law enforcement involved in this long quest for justice!
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Old 04-13-2021, 04:25 PM
 
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Yup finally charged.

Paul Flores Charged With Kristin Smart’s Murder 25 Years Later: Sheriff

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Nearly 25 years after Cal Poly freshman Kristin Smart vanished following a frat party, a California man who’s been named as a primary suspect in her disappearance has been arrested and charged with her murder.

Paul Flores, who walked Smart home from the party and was the last person to see her alive in 1996, was taken into custody on Tuesday in San Pedro, California, and booked into the San Luis Obispo County Jail.

Flores’ 80-year-old father, Ruben Flores, has also been arrested and charged with accessory after the fact. Authorities served another search warrant at Ruben’s Arroyo Grande home on Tuesday.

“Throughout our investigation, Paul Flores has remained a person of significant interest,” San Luis Obispo County Sheriff Ian Parkinson said in a Tuesday press conference announcing the charges against Flores and his father.

Parkinson declined to give details on the new information that led to Tuesday’s arrest but said authorities obtained new evidence after monitoring Flores’ phone and text messages. The arrests come just one month after the sheriff’s office identified Flores as “the prime suspect” in Smart’s case, which has attracted national attention for decades.
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Old 04-13-2021, 05:04 PM
 
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Paul Flores and his father Ruben have finally been arrested...this is why you never quit in pursuit of a murderer...No bail for Paul...250k for Ruben...thank you to all law enforcement involved in this long quest for justice!
Wow! Good to hear!
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:43 PM
 
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Prosecutor: Missing student killed during 1996 rape attempt

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Missing California college student Kristin Smart was killed in 1996 during an attempted rape by a fellow student and the suspect’s father helped hide her body, the San Luis Obispo County district attorney said Wednesday.

Prosecutors filed a first-degree murder charge against Paul Flores and an accessory after murder charge against his father, Ruben Flores, for helping him conceal Smart's body, which has never been found, District Attorney Dan Dow said.

The two were arrested Tuesday after years of investigations and searches that recently led to evidence connected to Smart’s killing.

Smart, 19, of Stockton, was last seen May 25, 1996, while returning to her dorm at California Polytechnic State University campus in San Luis Obispo after an off-campus party. She was inebriated at the time and Flores, a fellow freshman at the school, had offered to walk her home.

Flores killed Smart in his dorm room, Dow said. Investigators, who launched a renewed search Tuesday at his father's property in nearby Arroyo Grande, believe they know where the body was buried but have not yet located it or disclosed the location.

Dow urged the public to come forward with any information they may have about the killing or other crimes Paul Flores may have committed.

In more recent years, Paul Flores frequented bars around his home in the San Pedro area of Los Angeles area and may have committed other sexual assaults, Dow said. He didn't disclose what investigators found, but said they are seeking other crime victims.
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Old 08-17-2021, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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You would think the family would have some concrete evidence before calling the media.

I can't imagine the FBI tells a family to go away before giving them any news.

It does sound suspicious that the FBI said what they did, then that the family called the media.
It does make you wonder if they both know something that isn't being shared
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Old 09-23-2021, 01:06 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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A San Luis Obispo County judge ruled that Paul Flores will be tried for murder in the 1996 disappearance of Kristin Smart and that his father must also answer to charges that he was an accessory to the crime.

Judge Craig B. Van Rooyen on Wednesday morning (9/22) made the decision there was probable cause to try both father and son after hearing 22 days of testimony in which the prosecutor laid out a circumstantial case against Paul Flores, who was the last person seen with the fellow Cal Poly San Luis Obispo student near the residence halls on May 25, 1996.

Paul Flores was arrested in April at his San Pedro home, nearly 25 years after Smart, 19, vanished after being last seen walking with him toward the dormitories. While Smart’s body has never been found, she was legally declared dead in 2002.


https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-smart-killing
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Old 04-22-2022, 02:52 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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The trial will be moved to Monterey County.

SALINAS, Calif. (KRON) — Kristin Smart’s accused killer will be put on trial in Monterey County, a judge ruled on Wednesday.

San Luis Obispo Superior Court Judge Craig Van Rooyen granted a change of venue request filed by defense attorneys for Paul and Ruben Flores.

https://www.kron4.com/news/californi...nterey-county/
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Old 04-22-2022, 03:38 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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The trial will be moved to Monterey County.

SALINAS, Calif. (KRON) — Kristin Smart’s accused killer will be put on trial in Monterey County, a judge ruled on Wednesday.

San Luis Obispo Superior Court Judge Craig Van Rooyen granted a change of venue request filed by defense attorneys for Paul and Ruben Flores.

https://www.kron4.com/news/californi...nterey-county/
Thank you for the update! Hopefully justice delayed doesn't mean justice denied!
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