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View Poll Results: Joran Van Der Sloot presumed Innocent or Guilty?
Innocent 10 5.21%
Guilty 182 94.79%
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Could he be innocent...?...let us count the ways............nope-zilch.
He got a pass with the first murder that we know of. No telling how many more he got passes on.
He got stupid,reckless and busted with this one.
Had he not been given a pass before, this one one not have happened.
Blame the Aruba LE for this murder, in addition to placing the blame directly at the murderer.
Anyone with any sense would never,ever visit Aruba after the Natalie Holloway disapperance. That's my opinion and I stand by it. I wouldn't go there if given a free trip,land and or house.

I am going to be standing right beside you on this one also. I fully agree, I would not go there ever either.

After Natolie, didn't he flee back to Netherlands or somewhere like that? The Aruba police didn't do diddly squat.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Innocent until proven guilty.
Things don't look good, but how many times were you innocent but accused in your life? Of course,he isn't in America, so I don't know if innocent until proven guilty counts. I sure wouldn't want to be in his shoes. I feel sorry for all the families involved, including his. I can't imagine what his Mother is feeling.
yeah, and lets thank god he isn't here in America, because with our legal system the way it is here, he would become a free killer.


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Old 03-17-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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I am going to be standing right beside you on this one also. I fully agree, I would not go there ever either.

After Natolie, didn't he flee back to Netherlands or somewhere like that? The Aruba police didn't do diddly squat.
Just don't be getting into a car alone with three horny teenagers at 1 a.m. and you'll be OK.

After Joran graduated from high school he went back to the Netherlands to attend college.

You are right about the Aruba police. They so rarely have to deal with murders they don't really know how to conduct a proper investigation.

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Old 03-17-2011, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Just don't be getting into a car alone with three horny teenagers at 1 a.m. and you'll be OK.

After Joran graduated from high school he went back to the Netherlands to attend college.

You are right about the Aruba police. They so rarely have to deal with murders they don't really know how to conduct a proper investigation.

yeah, that i will give you, any girl that goes in a car with 3 boys alone is not the best decesion one could make, i do agree with that.
but even though, it isnt a reason to be killed..
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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yeah, that i will give you, any girl that goes in a car with 3 boys alone is not the best decesion one could make, i do agree with that.
but even though, it isnt a reason to be killed..
No, it isn't. What really happened will never be known. Joran is a pathological liar and you can't believe a word he says.

Up until the Peru incident, I was still giving him the benefit of the doubt, thinking Natalee probably had a respiratory/cardiac arrest from a drug OD, that Joran was probably the one that provided those drugs to her (knowing she was already drunk), that he then panicked and got rid of her body by taking it out to sea and dumping her. (Probably with help and/or advice from his father.) But now that we know how brutally the gal in Peru was murdered, I've had to rethink my hypothesis entirely and consider something else. Now I'm thinking that Natalee and Joran got into a very intimate encounter, she said "No" when it was already too late, started struggling and fighting and he lost it and smacked her around too harshly and/or outright murdered her in anger......and THEN dumped her body at sea. If she were dumped off the north shore in Aruba, her body would be carried away by the strong current that is present on that side of the island and very shortly she would be fish food. Joran's father admitted that he had advised his son, "No body, no case" so we know that Joran confided something to his father, who took that information to his grave. I don't think his mother knows to this day what really happened.

If there is any lesson to be learned from this, it is that a woman should NEVER go off alone with some guy(s) she has just met.
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Old 03-18-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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No, it isn't. What really happened will never be known. Joran is a pathological liar and you can't believe a word he says.

Up until the Peru incident, I was still giving him the benefit of the doubt, thinking Natalee probably had a respiratory/cardiac arrest from a drug OD, that Joran was probably the one that provided those drugs to her (knowing she was already drunk), that he then panicked and got rid of her body by taking it out to sea and dumping her. (Probably with help and/or advice from his father.) But now that we know how brutally the gal in Peru was murdered, I've had to rethink my hypothesis entirely and consider something else. Now I'm thinking that Natalee and Joran got into a very intimate encounter, she said "No" when it was already too late, started struggling and fighting and he lost it and smacked her around too harshly and/or outright murdered her in anger......and THEN dumped her body at sea. If she were dumped off the north shore in Aruba, her body would be carried away by the strong current that is present on that side of the island and very shortly she would be fish food. Joran's father admitted that he had advised his son, "No body, no case" so we know that Joran confided something to his father, who took that information to his grave. I don't think his mother knows to this day what really happened.

If there is any lesson to be learned from this, it is that a woman should NEVER go off alone with some guy(s) she has just met.


That is a start. I have 3 sons, so I don't know anything about raising girls. But I also don't want any of my sons in a situation like this either. Thank God, the teenage years are over now....
..............and this is why parents like me and a bunch of others here in CD world, do not let our children attend these so called "get away" parties graduation thing, spring break things, or whatever the hell they call them these days...

call me me mean, don't care.......as a parent I have to make sure that my sons get guided in the right direction in life............

Joran is a completely rotten person, his mother seemed to be living in dreamland, with not a clue and apparantly the father is no better.


Unfortunetely the truth will never be known. We can all hope and pray Joran will rot in hell for the rest of his life.
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Old 03-17-2016, 08:52 PM
 
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Joran van der Sloot appears to confess to Holloway murder | New York Post

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Dutch convicted killer Joran van der Sloot, who is in a Peru jail for the 2010 murder of a 22-year-old woman there, was captured on an undercover video admitting that he lied to the police about Holloway’s death, Radar*Online.com reported Wednesday.

“I always lied to the police. I never told the truth,” said a grinning van der Sloot in the video. He was speaking in Dutch about the Holloway case to his wife and an undercover reporter working for Radar*Online and the National Enquirer.
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