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Old 01-12-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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BS much? You either didn't see the complete list of his favorite books, or you are cherry picking to make your case.
I saw his "complete list" of "favorite" books. When you list a dozen or so books, and two are communist books, it stands out.
His other "favorite" books were science-fiction, fiction, and the writings of Plato.
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Old 01-12-2011, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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I saw his "complete list" of "favorite" books. When you list a dozen or so books, and two are communist books, it stands out.
His other "favorite" books were science-fiction, fiction, and the writings of Plato.
He also listed We the Living, which was written by Ayn Rand, darling of today's libertarians like Rand Paul. She was about as far from a communist as one can get. He also listed Mein Kampf. Nazi beliefs are also far from Communist beliefs, even though today it seems as if not many Americans understand that. He also listed The Republic (the beginnings of democracy); Animal Farm, an allegory that spoke against Communism; and Brave New World, a satire about "negative utopia," which can also be construed as anti-Communist.

So what was your point?

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Old 01-12-2011, 11:34 PM
 
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Sherrif Doofnik AKA " Sheriff Doofy" is just a pompous attention grabbing slob. he should focus on being professional and putting the facts first and not his own personal politically correct opinions.
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:59 PM
 
Location: West of the Catalinas East of the Tortolitas
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The shooter kid was politically far-left. His favorite books were The Communist Manifesto and a book by Adolf Hitler. He burned an American flag. He called the U.S. constitution, among other things, "treasonous". He didn't like our form of government. The kid would have been a perfect fit for the "Weather Underground" had he been born 30 years earlier.
That's where Sheriff Dupnik went wrong. He lashed out and blamed a group of people who had nothing to do with this. The kid's friends said he didn't watch Fox News or much T.V. at all. He didn't listen to talk radio. He never attended a Tea Party.
What did he do? He read books. He read radical, far-left books.
If the Sheriff was going to be outraged, why wasn't he outraged at that? Where was the lashing out of The Communist Manifesto?
Sheriff Dupnik should apologize, IMHO.
Since when does the type of book you read make you a mass killer? What does his choice of literature have to do with anything?

What should he have been reading? Romance novels?
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:35 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Marcy1210, I'm in complete agreement with you and Sheriff Dupnik. I tried to rate you, but apparently I did before.

PS: Why do conservatives so often spell "losing" (as in losing one's mind) as "loosing"? The mind is not loose, it is lost (as in lose, which is what we are all doing as Tucson's reputation goes down the drain nationwide).
I have noticed that "lose" is one of the most commonly misspelled words in comment threads everywhere-spelled "loose". In addition to the usuals to and too, their, there and they're and your and you're. It's funny because they'll have big complicated words spelled correctly and then one of these errors will pop up.
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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He could be recalled, could he not?
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Yep.
Of course (left that one out), but that's a complicated process, it's not "firing".

I don't think it's going to happen.

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BS much? You either didn't see the complete list of his favorite books, or you are cherry picking to make your case.
Indeed. Along with the ones everyone loves to talk about, the list included the Wizard of Oz. Here's the whole list:

"Animal Farm," "Brave New World," "The Wizard of OZ," "Aesop's Fables," "The Odyssey," "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland," "Fahrenheit 451," "Peter Pan," "To Kill A Mockingbird," "We The Living," "Phantom Toll Booth," "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," "Pulp," "Through The Looking Glass," "The Communist Manifesto," "Siddhartha," "The Old Man and the Sea," "Gulliver's Travels," "Mein Kampf," "The Republic" and "Meno."
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Old 01-13-2011, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Wendell NC
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Yes, go ahead and vilify Sheriff Dupnik. Meantime, gun sales in Tucson are soaring and the shops are running out of those $499 Glocks.

I don't understand people from Arizona.
...Maybe if more of our citizenry were armed they could have stopped this mad man before he killed anyone...so what part of the Constitiution dont you understand...or have you even bothered to read any of it?
The rest of you are groping for answers ...what one reads is not at the issue...its how one interprets what they read. No one can get inside this mad man's head...suffice to say he is one sick bastard.
I'm not familiar with this sheriff but it seems his comments are out of line and further contribute to the poor rhetoric that only divides us further. This should be a time of coming together and trying to work for the betterment of all. This divisive rhetoric is just that.
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:35 AM
 
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He also listed Mein Kampf. Nazi beliefs are also far from Communist beliefs, even though today it seems as if not many Americans understand that.
I always cringe when people equate fascism with communism. Opposite ends of the political spectrum - both extreme.
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Old 01-13-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Yes, go ahead and vilify Sheriff Dupnik. Meantime, gun sales in Tucson are soaring and the shops are running out of those $499 Glocks.

I don't understand people from Arizona.
Me neither - why are they just now buying them?
Better late than never I suppose..
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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Since when does the type of book you read make you a mass killer? What does his choice of literature have to do with anything?

What should he have been reading? Romance novels?

My point was that his supposed listening to Talk Radio, watching Fox News, support of Sarah Palin, and attendence of Tea Party rallies made him a killer in the media and to Sheriif Dupnik. Turns out, he did none of those things.
If you follow the reasoning of the news media and the sheriff, then the books he read does the same thing.
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