05-04-2014, 09:29 PM
Location: Tucson
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Hi Tom,
I found this link and read your message with interest. My husband and I are planning a move in Sept 2014. Did you make the move and if so, how do you like it?
Kat
Kat,
Just saw your question so sorry about the late response. Yes, we made the move and you couldn't drag me back to the east coast for love nor money. Tucson in general and Sunflower in particular, have been a perfect fit for us. The community itself is as active as you want it to be or as unobtrusive as some might desire. We tend to take advantage of a lot of different activities and have made a lot of new and interesting friends. More teachers and Phd's living here than I would have ever imagined and it makes for interesting dialogue. Plus, absolutely no one I've met has any pretensions whatsoever - I think the theory is that by this age, you no longer need to impress anyone. We even have a best selling author living here but you would never know it if you weren't familiar with her work.
As to Tucson in general - it's ideal for us. It's funny because I just drove back from the east coast to bring our last car out here (wanted to see my mom back there anyway which is why I didn't ship it) and all along the route, I kept comparing medium/large cities to Tucson and could not come up with a one that would entice me away. I know you can't tell much from an interstate drive by but just the fact that traffic was much worse in most areas was enough to write an area off.
We love the culture here, have become supporting members of the symphony, go to the Fox theater a LOT, go to a lot of the street fair events downtown and have really adopted a new outdoor attitude. My wife is now a hiker and I've become a bicyclist. Plus, I've always flown R/C aircraft and there are several good clubs here that I've joined.
Granted we're out from the city proper but I just don't see crime as a big issue here, at least not from what they choose to televise. I was half afraid of drug gang gun battles in the streets but have seen none of that and while I'm sure drugs crossing the border is a huge issue, I suspect once they get this far, they keep going to get as far away from the border patrol as possible.
It's not utopia though. There are sections of Tucson proper that are rundown and support an element that I'd prefer not to be around. Development of the area has been hodgepodge as apparently the long term planning and master planning are brand new concepts to both the town and the Pima county. The whole employment thing bothers me a lot even though we're retired. With a little work, I think Tucson has a LOT to offer companies, not the least of which is a potentially well educated workforce with a much lower labor cost. Oh, and I still haven't figured out the whole concept behind the coming streetcar but I'm trying
Obviously the southwest isn't for everyone. Yes, it's a DRY heat but 108 degrees is HOT no matter what. Rattlesnakes, lizards, javelinas, bobcats, coyotes are indigenous to the region and you will encounter them. Except for the rattlesnakes, the rest of the critters will avoid you at all costs. Rattlesnakes are a bit more stubborn, seeming to claim a spot and expecting you to avoid them which I'm more than glad to do. Regular insect control is a must - once a month is the norm and seems to keep all the stinging and biting pests at bay.
Tom
05-05-2014, 11:22 AM
Location: Buckeye
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As we prepare to visit Tucson retirement communities from our home in MN I've been watching daily weather in the area. Seems SunFlower may be one of the warmer locations compared to SCOV, Saddlebrook, Rancho Del Lago. I like the info Tom gives us here and we're going to check it out on our whirlwind tour but wonder if the other locations might be more (weather) comfortable living year round.
05-05-2014, 02:56 PM
Location: NH
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Gene,
In the Southern Arizona area elevation above sea level does make a big difference. Rancho Del Lago and Saddlebrooke are higher in elevation than Tucson proper and Marana, hence somewhere around 5 degrees cooler on average. Sierra Vista, further south tends to be cooler as well. The cooler year round temperature will make for some cool to cold nights in the winter (depending on your definition of cold.)
05-06-2014, 05:05 PM
Location: Oro Valley
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What a great thread. So much great information right here. Thanks everyone.
I live in Oro Valley and it is, by elevation, cooler than Tucson and Phoenix. And we get some cool nights in the winter months and our heat ran for months. We didn't have much of a monsoon in 2013 so we're hoping that we'll get some more rain on this side of town.
We saw the rain but got very very little of it. Sadly.
Our water bill is high and if you end up in Oro Valley, you will pay more for water than Tucson Water customers (from what I've been told). For May 2014, our water bill was $175.00. We have grass (sadly) and a big yard with landscaping, flowers, bushes and trees that need water and a pool. I just wanted to mention that if you have a pool, expect higher water bills too. And we were gone for a week on vacation!
Good Luck!
05-07-2014, 10:59 AM
Location: Buckeye
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Thanks LittleGirly. When we settle there will be no pool. We had a hot tub once thinking of romantic Minnesota winter evenings soaking in a steaming tub on the deck. The bloom went off that rose fast with all the required maintenance and PH balance, etc. NO THANKS. Don't want the work. I also have no interest in grass (or mowing). Maybe a few potted plants, cacti and that's about it.
05-28-2014, 11:26 AM
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Tom,
Thanks for your reply. We are convinced the Sunflower will be our home beginning in September. We will fly in in August to buy a house. Thank you for all the information!
Kat
05-29-2014, 03:15 AM
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Thanks LittleGirly. When we settle there will be no pool. We had a hot tub once thinking of romantic Minnesota winter evenings soaking in a steaming tub on the deck. The bloom went off that rose fast with all the required maintenance and PH balance, etc. NO THANKS. Don't want the work. I also have no interest in grass (or mowing). Maybe a few potted plants, cacti and that's about it.
I'm in the far east Phoenix area but I like reading different threads around the state, and I echo your thoughts on pools, lawns, etc. Everyone told me when I bought my first home in 2004 that I should get a pool, fountain, a jacuzzi, a gazebo, a statue...sheesh, you'd have thought I should have an amusement park installed!
It's not that my property is really big--it isn't. But my home is a two-bedroom so with a smaller home, I have a little larger yard plus it backs up to an easement so it extends a little further out.
All I could think of when someone would suggest yet another item was "ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching" as the price in my head went up, up and up.
I don't have a lawn, a pool, or anything other than some neat desert plants (no cacti) that have really pretty flowers and a Palo Verde tree (I lost two trees in a monsoon) which also is really pretty in the Spring, and a little meandering minus-material walkway with concrete curbing, and rocks. It is my mini botanical garden, and I enjoy sitting on the 'lawn' swing at night (especially in Summer) watching the sky.
I know for a lot of folks a pool is essential, but I have never once regretted *not* having the pool, the lawn, etc.
Welcome to Arizona, and good luck in your new home when you finally arrive.
06-03-2014, 05:07 AM
Location: Buckeye
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I will never have a spa (hot tub) again. Had one here in MN at a previous home and spent time and money always trying to balance the PH and keep the water clear. Way too much maintenance! I can't imagine how much time it takes to keep a pool in good shape!
06-18-2014, 05:17 PM
Location: Approximately 50 miles from Missoula MT/38 yrs full time after 4 yrs part time
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Attn:.....GeneR...............I'll be REAL anxious to read your post(s) after you return to MN after your "tour" of places to possibly settle down in AZ.
From 2004 to 2010, I spent approx 24 months, spread over those 7 years -mostly during the winter time-, but also tried June & July just once . Was looking for someplace that MIGHT be suitable for me to consider moving to. After working 40 years. I retired in 1994 and being widowed about 10 years later, I thought I'd like to get some place with better winter time weather. I rented a furnished house in places like Oro Valley twice, Mesa, Tucson twice, Casa Grande, Sedona and Camp Verde.....none of those places convinced me that I'd be happy finishing out my life down there (even considering that I'd be spending June July & August up here in MT at my daughter's place.)... I also spent some time in the Sonoita area south of Tucson........now that area ( Sonoita and 15 miles or so in any direction) is much more desirable (cooler, hardly any cactus, great views)
for me, than any of the other areas mentioned. I am not a golfer, I still do bird (quail) hunting, I don't want somebody living close by me (I like about a minimum of 5 acres).....at this point in my life I like peace and quite, privacy, don't want a bunch of neighborhood noise etc,etc. and yet it's close to Tucson and Casa Grande.
If you can do it....I'd suggest you check out the Sonoita area...............Good luck
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People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)