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Old 03-28-2013, 12:18 AM
 
Location: West of the Catalinas East of the Tortolitas
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I went to an Estate sale Saturday in the vicinity of Del Webb Blvd and Sun City Blvd. in Oro Valley. The house holding the sale was really nice~~two master suites, LR, DR, den, FR, nice kitchen and 2 car garage. I saw a house for sale nearby that was also really nice, so I took a brouchure and was surprised it was (only) listed at $244,000.00, considering it's not far from Honey Bee Estates. The houses are a manageable size for me, and I'm considering (a little) maybe needing to be in a one story place as the condo I'm in is on the 2nd floor and the stairs are starting to get my knees. Both homes I saw had very nice natural landscaping which didn't seem too difficult to keep up. I'm really curious about the area~~age of residents (Seniors?), nearby amenities, general types of houses, prices, etc. I loved the look of the neighborhood, but I'm spoiled having people of all ages here, being close to shopping and amenities (I'm near 1st & Oracle) and having lots of neighbors. I looked at TARMLS, but I wasn't sure of the neighborhood name, and I couldn't really find what I was looking for. I was intrigued, though....
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Oro Valley AZ.
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The area is referred to as "Sun City Vistoso" for TAR search purposes. Within Sun City Vistoso there are about 6 different "neighborhoods" that are all part of the active adult community. About a year ago for some reason unknown to many, they officially changed the name of the area to "Sun City Oro Valley" Here is a link with information on the area, Sun City Oro Valley

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Old 03-29-2013, 01:15 AM
 
Location: West of the Catalinas East of the Tortolitas
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The area is referred to as "Sun City Vistoso" for TAR search purposes. Within Sun City Vistoso there are about 6 different "neighborhoods" that are all part of the active adult community. About a year ago for some reason unknown to many, they officially changed the name of the area to "Sun City Oro Valley" Here is a link with information on the area, Sun City Oro Valley
Thanks, Rick!!
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I went to an Estate sale Saturday in the vicinity of Del Webb Blvd and Sun City Blvd. in Oro Valley. The house holding the sale was really nice~~two master suites, LR, DR, den, FR, nice kitchen and 2 car garage. I saw a house for sale nearby that was also really nice, so I took a brouchure and was surprised it was (only) listed at $244,000.00, considering it's not far from Honey Bee Estates. The houses are a manageable size for me, and I'm considering (a little) maybe needing to be in a one story place as the condo I'm in is on the 2nd floor and the stairs are starting to get my knees. Both homes I saw had very nice natural landscaping which didn't seem too difficult to keep up. I'm really curious about the area~~age of residents (Seniors?), nearby amenities, general types of houses, prices, etc. I loved the look of the neighborhood, but I'm spoiled having people of all ages here, being close to shopping and amenities (I'm near 1st & Oracle) and having lots of neighbors. I looked at TARMLS, but I wasn't sure of the neighborhood name, and I couldn't really find what I was looking for. I was intrigued, though....

Hi Marcy When I was doing my research on retiring to Arizona over a year ago. You were nice enough to give me a review on the Tucson area. Well I ended up putting Tucson on hold at the time, and decided to try out the Phoenix area first. I rented a home in Sun City West in Northwest suburban Phoenix.

I can't review the specific community you mentioned, but I can offer some info that may help you on AZ retirement communities. I can tell you if you feel, that you will miss mixed ages. Then this type of living would not appeal to you for very long. Everything looks nice at first but depending on one's background and personality. This type of living is not for every retiree out there. I found I missed some of the diversity of life before retirement, and at least in the community I am at. There is next to no one in my age group. I was 63 in November. The average age here seems to be 75+. The people really seem to keep to themselves other than their club activities. Definite lack of neighbors and I personally need that interaction. I also do need some mixed ages and find myself going to activities outside the community. Simply so I can spend some time with other people and ages.

I actually now have reconsidered Tucson for retirement, however not a retirement community. I have made a few trips down there over the past months. I found I like the Tucson area much better than Metro Phoenix.

Really do your research on Retirement Community living. If you find there are things you will miss. Make sure you can live without them before buying into one.

Personally I think some of us are just not cut out for that type of living arrangement. A mixed aged/people arrangement seems to fit some of us better. Retirement doesn't mean one size fits all. I'm not so sure some of these Del Webb communities have ever thought about that. That or these communities only attrack a certain type of population.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:17 AM
 
Location: West of the Catalinas East of the Tortolitas
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I enjoy the community where I live, but I can forsee a need to be in a ground floor condo or single family home at some point. I have a 3BR condo, and even though the house I saw only had 2 bedrooms (master suites), it had a den/office and a family room which appealed to me. Granted, it was the house, the view and the fairly maintenance free yard that I liked, I was curious about the community. I drove back over there today, and explored the community. Lots of people on golf carts, lots of golfers. I'm not a golfer. The community center was nice, but I don't see myself using it much, as I have a pool/fitness area/clubhouse/business center, etc., here that I never use. I'm very involved with my community as I'm on several committees, but sometimes the transient nature of snowbirds bothers me. In summer, it's pretty empty. I loved the house, but I'm not sure the neighborhood is one I'd feel connected to, from what I saw. I will continue looking, but I'm not in a hurry. I just really liked the house I saw, but I don't know that I'm ready for a retirement community.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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Sun City Oro Valley (aka Sun City Vistoso) is smack in the middle of Rancho Vistoso, which also has neighborhoods that are intended for families or singles who want to live in homes with property. Rancho Vistoso does have condos and townhomes, too. Vistoso Village Townhomes is an age-restricted community, but others are not.

I know a couple of people who live in Sun City Oro Valley and when I drive to their single-family homes I can't tell from the look of the houses or the landscaping where Sun City ends and the next development begins. Sun City does have amenities private to that development, as described on their website, but it also has easy access to all the other benefits of Oro Valley, including the excellent library, parks and recreation, shopping/restaurants, and the proximity of the medical specialties centered around Oro Valley Hospital on Tangerine.

The home I currently live in (not in OV, but nearby) is my first experience living in a suburb. My previous homes were all in urban metros, and while I owned several houses, I lived for many years in apartment buildings. To me there is a vast difference in living in a suburban location, especially if you are alone in a house, than living in a city. But it's hard for me to say if the change from a suburban condo to a suburban house would be all that different. And in Tucson, it seems to me that your housing dollar goes a lot further in the single-family home market than the condo market. Very nice homes such as the one where you attended the sale are quite a bargain in Tucson these days. If I were to put my house up for sale today, I would have to list it for nearly $100,000 less than I paid for it eight years ago. And I've improved the house since I bought it!

I hear what JimRob1 is saying about some people being ill-suited to retirement communities, but in the many of those I've seen, few were incorporated into the larger community as well as Sun City OV is. The residents I know there are quite tuned in to the life of the entire town and don't seem isolated from the greater community at all. And while Rancho Vistoso is car-centric, Sun City does have some arrangements with Sun Tran for public transportation and Rancho V. with its beautiful scenery is quite the place for walking, running, and biking.
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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Really do your research on Retirement Community living. If you find there are things you will miss. Make sure you can live without them before buying into one.

Personally I think some of us are just not cut out for that type of living arrangement. A mixed aged/people arrangement seems to fit some of us better. Retirement doesn't mean one size fits all. I'm not so sure some of these Del Webb communities have ever thought about that. That or these communities only attract a certain type of population.
You certainly are correct that people should do serious research ... as well as a rigorous SELF-assessment to find out what's really important to them. In addition to the happy people I know at Sun City OV, I also know some people who have moved to retirement enclaves in the far Phoenix 'burbs who are less than ecstatic because of the isolation. Retirement corporations build out in the middle of nowhere (cheap land), then "recreate" amenities that people could get — compliments of tax dollars they already paid — if they stayed nearer to civilization. In places like the Sun Cities in Phoenix and SaddleBrooke outside Tucson (for example), the golf courses, tennis courts, pools, club houses, etc., etc., are all paid for only by the few people who live there. Quiet and exclusive, but like you, many don't really want that.

I have my 86-year-old mother living with me in unincorporated Pima Co. and she has access to tons of amenities that are county amenities. The Arthur Pack county park and two county libraries, as well as the beautiful Ellie Towne Community Center with tons of senior activities, are very close to my house. As well as the great NW Y and her huge church with many activities that can be enjoyed by people her age. She can't play golf, but if she did there's an excellent public course at Arthur Pack. Retirement communities recreate all those things but the cost is included in monthly fees. The HOA dues in my community are quite low, but all those activities are close by, as well as the Foothills Mall and the NW Medical Center.

Many retirement communities are gorgeous and residents are taken care of like royalty, but people need to choose one that meets their true needs, not just the ones they imagine they might like. My only point was that Sun City Oro Valley seems to me to be the best of both worlds ... if one can afford it.

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Old 04-02-2013, 01:20 AM
 
Location: West of the Catalinas East of the Tortolitas
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I like what you say, Jukesgrrl. I like the idea of single story homes, and I like the idea of a yard. I'm in a 2nd floor walk-up condo, and thanks to years and years of running, jogging, and other activities, my knees aren't what they used to be. I tore the meniscus in my right knee about a year ago, and it's been a slow heal. Stairs are not my friend. But, that being said, I also like the community feel here in my condo complex; I'm on a few committees, and I enjoy that. I know Sun City would have community committees, too, and I would most likely get involved to some extent. Then again, I don't know what the dues are at Sun City, and mine here aren't too bad. So, that could be an issue. I need to do a lot of serious research like you and JimRob said. I have made friends here that I enjoy, so that would make it hard to leave, but Sun City is only about 5 miles from me now, which is convenient for staying close to current friends. So, there's a lot to weigh on both sides of the scale, and I will be taking my time to decide what I want to do. Thank you for the insight of Sun City from knowing people who live there.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:04 AM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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From looking at the MLS, it seems their monthly HOA fees are approx. $135.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:02 AM
 
Location: West of the Catalinas East of the Tortolitas
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That's less than I'm paying for my condo's HOA...and they get a whole lot more. Something to think about.
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