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Old 04-01-2014, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Evidently Tucson is not interested in what one, would associate with boosting its economy. A network of fwys and roads to move the masses, and make itself more attractive to businesses. I don't know all the reasons why this goes on, and here we are in 2014. So all I can come up with is, Tucson is content with being a college, retirement town, with an AF Base in there also. Tucson doesn't seem to want anything else. If it did you can bet the lack of proper fwys, or roads, would have been addressed years ago. I can't imagine that Tesla would ever choose the Tucson area, and I guess that's fine with Tucson.
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Colorado - Oh, yeah!
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at this point, land from I10 east is not suitable to build any major roads, but on the west/south side of I10 there is room. building a loop that perhaps loops south from about starr pass, across I19, and back up into the SE side of tucson would imho give opportunity to revitalize the areas the loop cuts through, etc.
The objections to such a route have already been aired, the one that sticks out in my mind was the business owners along I-10 don't want all of their traffic taken away.

"Since we can't please all of the people all of the time, we won't do anything" - The unofficial Tucson motto.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:11 PM
 
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Nope. But still better traffic than some places with expressways during rush hour.
But, not, unfortunately, any metro with a similar population size. Those places are several times larger. For a city its size (about a million), Tucson's logistics are a disadvantage, in my opinion.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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The objections to such a route have already been aired, the one that sticks out in my mind was the business owners along I-10 don't want all of their traffic taken away.

"Since we can't please all of the people all of the time, we won't do anything" - The unofficial Tucson motto.
The sort of "passive growth" strategy needs to change for the metro to realize its potential.
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:01 PM
 
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People were having this discussion 20 years ago when I moved out of Tucson. Right now in Phoenix they are finishing up another new freeway with plans in the works to start on a couple of more pretty soon. Seems like people in Tucson debate freeways while Phoenix just goes ahead and builds them. I like going back to Tucson to visit friends & family, but driving across town to get the eastside drives me crazy. For a city its size, I-10 should be 4 lanes wide all the way from Marana to Vail.
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:17 PM
 
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Seems like people in Tucson debate freeways while Phoenix just goes ahead and builds them.

just as Tucson is resisting freeways now, Phoenix was doing the exact same thing back when the Valley had a population of one million (surprise!...Tucson metro's current population!!).....

only when traffic became a crisis (1986) did Phx voters decide to build freeways (and to pay for them).....

and only when traffic becomes a crisis in Tucson will freeways get built....Tucson isn't in a crisis yet....
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