HOAs in Saddlebrooke (Catalina: sales, to rent, condo)

[Katera]

Originally Posted by Achi WaWa

IMO,

HOA's are out of control and should be banned. Other than by consent , contract and desire to live in a particular place, where do they get the legal right to control other peoples lives. They are not a government entity and have no power than what you give them. they are as corrupt and politically money oriented as any city.
Why pay a group of strangers to tell you what you can and cannot do with your property and even to join their little club. I has become the norm in most cities and they don't even provide a gate anymore. [rant off]

Easy. Don't move to a community with an HOA. Problem solved.

[Achi WaWa]

If it were only that easy... lets say for a moment that...
One doesn't have 500k+ to blow on a house in the hills or a "gated community"

One doesn't want to live way out in the country, in a double wide off a dirt road... (about 200-250k)
One doesn't want to live in an urban area, on an acre lot, in a double wide off a dirt road...( about 250-300k)
One is definitely not into communal living aka apts, townhouses or condos.

What is left for the individualist in the 250-300k range?
1/4 Ac lots with 1800 SF houses 20' from the next one that looks the same as the last one, built in subdivisions that all have some form of HOA so they can feel they are keeping the riff-raff out by pricing it out of their reach.

I guess you can tell I'm no fan of HOA's nor Unions, but I do change the channel if I don't like what I see on TV.

[Saguarogirl507]

Up here in Ventana Canyon we have an interesting problem. Way back when the land was first developed there was one owner. That owner put a stipulation in all the HOA CC and Rs that everyone had to pay them a set amount every month for the "Master Association". They do nothing for each individual HOA but collect money. It reminds me of the mob. They take money from all of us and we get nothing in return. We have formed a group with several other HOAs here to see if we can get out of it but apparently others have tried in the past and had no success.....Now that is highway robbery. At least with the individual HOAs we get trash pick up, water, landscaping etc. With the master association. nothing. Nada.

[TimAZ]

Originally Posted by RobertaWa

Up here in Ventana Canyon we have an interesting problem. Way back when the land was first developed there was one owner. That owner put a stipulation in all the HOA CC and Rs that everyone had to pay them a set amount every month for the "Master Association". They do nothing for each individual HOA but collect money. It reminds me of the mob. They take money from all of us and we get nothing in return. We have formed a group with several other HOAs here to see if we can get out of it but apparently others have tried in the past and had no success.....Now that is highway robbery. At least with the individual HOAs we get trash pick up, water, landscaping etc. With the master association. nothing. Nada.

What, you don’t value the views?

You have discovered an interesting/disturbing fact about land in the west. Be it TX, AZ, OK, or NV, the large ranchers controlled everything and the cowboys that rode for them were their soldiers. We now have people living on former grazing areas, and there are local governments, but even today many small towns are essentially captives of the nearby ranches. They often own the grocery stores, the motels, gas stations, etc.

[Saguarogirl507]

Originally Posted by TimAZ

What, you don’t value the views?

You have discovered an interesting/disturbing fact about land in the west. Be it TX, AZ, OK, or NV, the large ranchers controlled everything and the cowboys that rode for them were their soldiers. We now have people living on former grazing areas, and there are local governments, but even today many small towns are essentially captives of the nearby ranches. They often own the grocery stores, the motels, gas stations, etc.

Oh yes, it is disturbing. Even the local CVS and the shops on the corner of Sunrise and Kolb all have to pay up. So we are not alone. We do not even get to know when the meetings are or who is on the board. We are hoping, at the very least, to get someone on their board in order to have a say.

[mddd]

Aca wawa
There are many communities and neighborhoods without HOAs. Why would you take the time to comment on a development north of Tucson that has one if not interested in one at all.
If you are interested in general area, there are several neighborhoods in Tucson without.
HOAs that do not have any amenities may not be a value.
But if one is run right and thru group power the area is able to provide high quality recreational environment - - than that is choice some will want to make.
It is more a question of what do you get for the money compared to other similar communities.
If you are wanting a community that is without that is certainly an option.
Saddlebrooke has multiple clubhouses, multiple restaurants, multiple libraries, sports complexes, 200 clubs.
Multiple restaurants, a live performance theater, multiple gyms. Price for all that is very reasonable and lower than other similar that have less amenities.

[CANoMore]

Is the monthly HOA fee in SaddleBrooke calculated on lot size? How is the monthly fee determined? Do all homeowners in the HOA pay the same amount each month?

[golf4ever]

Regarding Saddlebrooke's HOA1 or HOA2 monthly fees, on a macro level, the inventory of re-sale homes has been at all time lows for the past 12+ months. Currently only 37ish homes are available from about 5,000 doorknobs. Home prices have risen, and those priced fairly sell very quickly. In other words, to each their own.

[mddd]

The homeowners in HOA pay the same. Not calculated by size.

[CANoMore]

How does one go about arranging a tour of the SaddleBrooke community? Is there a particular visitor center/site to contact for a tour? My wife and I would like to get a feel for the community and the facilities. We are not interested in The Preserve but in HOA One and Two. We are looking to relocate to AZ in 2021 and SaddleBrooke seems to have many of the features we are interested in.