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Old 11-01-2020, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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The occurrence of California license plates around Tucson is almost shocking. I have never seen so many. My wife is in real estate and it aligns with what she is seeing as far as clients and new buyers, most of them buying with cash.

I welcome new folks to Tucson, but hope they contemplate the reasons and policies they left behind in California.
You gotta do more than "hope." You gotta test them. IF we pass the test, then we should get a "conditional OK." If we don't pass the test, then you should send us packing. Then, maybe after 10 years and we don't "go stupid" THEN, and only then, can we become "assimilated."

The stakes are too high to just "hope for the best." Many of us Californians have written the State off. DON'T LET Arizona become screwed up like California has. (Some of us, are planning on fleeing Calif, and we don't want our new home to be screwed up like the home we left.) In fact, a lot of us are banking on this, so don't let us down!

(Might want to make part of the test "Marksmanship...")
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Old 11-04-2020, 12:14 PM
 
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I've seen TX, CA, WA, MT, NY plates moving into the new hosing development near me. I always hear about Californians moving to AZ to "ruin it". But from my personal experience, most of those seem to be conservatives fleeing CA.
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Old 11-05-2020, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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The Bernie Sanders Millennial generation are not going away, they'll be back in 4 years more powerful than ever with a Bernie Sanders-like presidential candidate, and this crowd is determined to bring democratic socialism to the country, state by state, and there's no stopping them, or striking any fear in them. They now outnumber the older Baby Boom generation, and as they die off, they'll becoming increasingly powerful, and, in the end, there'll be nowhere to flee to, except maybe Oklahoma.

So you can fasten your seatbelt any time now! It's coming! And save your keystrokes in trying to change their minds!
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Old 11-05-2020, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Lifelong SoCalian
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You bet they will.....I and every Cali refugee I know are ultra-conservative.....fleeing the horror that CA has become. We're bringing our money, guns and votes to AZ......

And, unfortunately....lots of "showiness", lack of concern for the norms of the greater established community and a nice, tall dose of MEism to boot!

I'm sure longtime locals and natives are just thrilled...
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Old 11-05-2020, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Lifelong SoCalian
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You gotta do more than "hope." You gotta test them. IF we pass the test, then we should get a "conditional OK." If we don't pass the test, then you should send us packing. Then, maybe after 10 years and we don't "go stupid" THEN, and only then, can we become "assimilated."

The stakes are too high to just "hope for the best." Many of us Californians have written the State off. DON'T LET Arizona become screwed up like California has. (Some of us, are planning on fleeing Calif, and we don't want our new home to be screwed up like the home we left.) In fact, a lot of us are banking on this, so don't let us down!

(Might want to make part of the test "Marksmanship...")

I'm so happy the younger generations aren't of this mindset. Tijlover is right that there's a coming generational sweep which is going to occur. I'm 57 and I feel it coming. The younger generations are so tired of everything being about guns, churches, Wall Street, racism/segregation, lack of concern for the environment and climate change. If you don't feel it coming, then you've got blinders on.

It's interesting that the White conservative element on this thread is so eager to go and wreck Tucson's historic Indigenous-Chicano culture, warmth, artistic nature and liberal mindset just so they can tout their guns and not pay society back for their prosperity.
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Old 11-06-2020, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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I'm so happy the younger generations aren't of this mindset. Tijlover is right that there's a coming generational sweep which is going to occur. I'm 57 and I feel it coming. The younger generations are so tired of everything being about guns, churches, Wall Street, racism/segregation, lack of concern for the environment and climate change. If you don't feel it coming, then you've got blinders on.

It's interesting that the White conservative element on this thread is so eager to go and wreck Tucson's historic Indigenous-Chicano culture, warmth, artistic nature and liberal mindset just so they can tout their guns and not pay society back for their prosperity.
Let's hope you're the only one that can not recognize sarc when you see it. I guess I gotta be even MORE obvious, next time...
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Old 11-08-2020, 07:53 AM
 
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You bet they will.....I and every Cali refugee I know are ultra-conservative.....fleeing the horror that CA has become. We're bringing our money, guns and votes to AZ......
I can relate.

My wife and I did that when we fled NJ for TN.
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Old 11-08-2020, 08:20 AM
 
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I can relate.

My wife and I did that when we fled NJ for TN.
“Fleeing” being the key word. The blue states will become even more intolerant and entrenched with what is left behind. The red states will gain population at the expense of any local identity. I guess change is good in the end - shaking things up!

(Fleeing to FL ourselves but came from there so hopefully get a pass)

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Old 11-08-2020, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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California always has that opportunity to draw people back to that state, but that would entail silencing the Nimby's, or exiling them, and the CA Coastal Commission finally allowing highrises along the CA coastline.

Malibu has 25 miles of shoreline, which could translate to a hundred Miami-style highrises alone.
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Old 11-08-2020, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Evanston, Lake Forest, and Wrigleyville, Illinois
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My biggest worry of Californians coming to the Blue Island of the Southwest is they'll make it more conservative, like they've done in Las Vegas, which was a conservative city to start with, and now even more conservative, voting down anything that would raise their taxes, even though it would have benefited the local populace. The exception to that is voting for any tax increase for more police protection.
This bears little resemblance to reality. Nevada has always been a moderate-to-left-leaning state, and Las Vegas especially. Las Vegas has only favored the Republican candidate for president a handful of times in the entirety of its existence.
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