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Old 01-21-2023, 01:04 AM
 
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I moved down to Santa Cruz county last year and make a regular runs to Green Valley.
People, GV is about the safest, least stressful populated area I've ever driven in. The roads are wide, well marked, lights are timed better than most places.

Want to know the real GV story? Look at the data. Want to find worse roads/traffic? Go to any other populated area, heck you only have to go as far as Tuscon to get overwhelmed.


I agree with you to a point. In general, GV roads are very safe. However, from personal experience, there are a small number of drivers in this area who need to forfeit their drivers license as they cannot properly operate a vehicle. One neighbor down the street has "lost her keys" for the past few weeks. In actuality, the neighbors have "misplaced them" to keep her off of the roads. The woman has no family and people are trying to keep her and others safe.

However, I-19 poses a real problem in several ways. I have witnessed the following problems between GV and Tucson on almost a weekly basis:

1) The speed limit is 65 or 75 the entire length of the road. However, you need to deal with seniors who refuse to drive more than 55 mph, truckers who are limited to 60-65 as their engines are governed and people with an excessively long commute who treat the road like the autobahn.

2) The stretch of I-19 from Valencia and I-10 is simply one of the most confusing stretches of highway requiring a number of lane changes and the like. And that does not take into consideration that the road in that area has been under construction for 7+ years.

3) There are a significant number of border patrol employees working at the border and commuting home to Tucson after long shifts. The number of fatigued drivers in that stretch is quite high. I watch a lot of lane drifting along that road. There have been quite a few single car accidents in this area involving federal LEOs. I think that a lack of services along the road especially at night contribute to this problem. Also, it is one of the darkest routes I have ever driven at night.
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Old 01-23-2023, 07:41 PM
 
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I agree with you to a point. In general, GV roads are very safe. However, from personal experience, there are a small number of drivers in this area who need to forfeit their drivers license as they cannot properly operate a vehicle. One neighbor down the street has "lost her keys" for the past few weeks. In actuality, the neighbors have "misplaced them" to keep her off of the roads. The woman has no family and people are trying to keep her and others safe.

However, I-19 poses a real problem in several ways. I have witnessed the following problems between GV and Tucson on almost a weekly basis:

1) The speed limit is 65 or 75 the entire length of the road. However, you need to deal with seniors who refuse to drive more than 55 mph, truckers who are limited to 60-65 as their engines are governed and people with an excessively long commute who treat the road like the autobahn.

2) The stretch of I-19 from Valencia and I-10 is simply one of the most confusing stretches of highway requiring a number of lane changes and the like. And that does not take into consideration that the road in that area has been under construction for 7+ years.

3) There are a significant number of border patrol employees working at the border and commuting home to Tucson after long shifts. The number of fatigued drivers in that stretch is quite high. I watch a lot of lane drifting along that road. There have been quite a few single car accidents in this area involving federal LEOs. I think that a lack of services along the road especially at night contribute to this problem. Also, it is one of the darkest routes I have ever driven at night.
I get it, some drivers are aging out and not aware. The neighbor with the "lost keys" i can understand. I'm sure my mother will be "losing" her keys in the next couple of years but fortunately she has me to assist. It's a tough situation and I'm not comfortable delclaring who can drive and who can't, I'll leave that to LE and the DOT.

I-19 I consider a different entity then GV but can see how it gets gummy through there. A simple fix may be post a consistent 65 through GV to Tucson.
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Old 01-23-2023, 09:58 PM
 
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My insurance went down when I moved from BBC to Rio Rico..still can't figure that one out. You would think the Mexicans would be extra careful driving to shop in Nogales, AZ..but they rarely come to a complete stop or respect pedestrians. Lack of self respect is part of the problem. Old folks have been brainwashed into that damn car culture and it is almost a macho thing.
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