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Old 09-19-2009, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Baja Arizona
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No apology necessary as you've totally misinterpreted. I'm very happy, thank you, without a bit of jealousy. I understand your defensive nature, however. It's only natural to defend one's turf whether it be by going off topic or otherwise. The problem we frequently see is fanboy bias tends to cloud the facts. Objective or dispassionate appraisal is often scorned as hostile, especially from those who don't like what they hear, even if factual.

If anything I feel a bit of pity for those who become so defensive. This suggests they have true reason to be defensive, typically insecurity issues. I also pity those who find themselves stuck without the good fortune as I to be able to choose where to live. Younger career oriented types have better opportunities elsewhere. Older folks understandably like it ... less cold tolerant than the younger set generally.

To the subject of Michigan permit me to clear up your misunderstanding. Michigan, as in AZ has its troubles but is far from depressing, a virtual paradise for those who enjoy 4 seasons, greenery, water, fishing, boating, hiking, biking, snow skiing, canoeing, festivals, concerts, top notch colleges, etc. It is vibrant and alive, the west and central part of the state in particular plus suburban Detroit, with an amazing amount of housing rehabilitation and urban revival from generations who take pride in their community without the transient aspects of many southwest cities. Plentiful water, windpower, agriculture, tourism, manufacturing capacity, and a booming life sciences industry set the stage for a bright future in a state that is reinventing itself, albeit painfully out of necessity, with a diversified economic base not overly reliant on tourism or real estate.

Curiously I've met more people who've LEFT Arizona to return to Michigan than vice versa though many were younger, disillusioned by what they experienced. Oh, the summer has been magnificent! My gripe is too much sun. Hardly seen a cloud in the last 2 months. My choice was good one. Hopefully will get back to Tucson for a few months, certainly no more.

I appreciate your concern, hopefully you will have a better understanding of yourself and others. Best wishes.

Back to the subject!
The very best to you, actinic. Enjoy Michigan! - ZP
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:56 PM
 
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This might be fun for 70s Tucson folks. I found three minutes of KWFM radio from 1974(ish) Tucson on one of the tapes my family recorded. I made it into an MP3 you can download and listen to.

It consists of the DJ talking, two commercials and more talking.

This link will last seven days:

YouSendIt - Send large files - transfer delivery - FTP Replacement
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Old 10-01-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Curiously I've met more people who've LEFT Arizona to return to Michigan than vice versa though many were younger, disillusioned by what they experienced. Oh, the summer has been magnificent! My gripe is too much sun. Hardly seen a cloud in the last 2 months. My choice was good one. Hopefully will get back to Tucson for a few months, certainly no more.
Is there anyway you can get the rest to leave our fair state and return there to your "paradise"? Really I would be all for that!
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:31 AM
 
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I think there is an important life lesson in this thread: Paradise and Hell are not far apart...and they're both in Michigan.

Paradise Michigan Chamber of Commerce, in the Upper Peninsula

Hell, Michigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-03-2009, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Baja Arizona
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I think there is an important life lesson in this thread: Paradise and Hell are not far apart...and they're both in Michigan.
I guess every state has its paradise... and hell...
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Old 10-04-2009, 04:32 PM
 
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Is there anyway you can get the rest to leave our fair state and return there to your "paradise"? Really I would be all for that!
Follow Michigan's lead ... its doing a great job encouraging people to leave.

I figure another 20% drop in MI population should make it just about perfect, at the expense of other 'fair' states burdened by the new influx you're just as anxious to see go.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:58 PM
 
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Unless our southern border with Mexico is dealt with, I see nothing but population growth of the worst kind in Arizona's future.
Similar to that of California's out of control growth even though they are in a terrible recession.

For every taxpaying family that leaves Arizona, dozens of illegal non taxpaying families arrive so they can sign up for our well advertised welfare programs.

Last edited by Tanque Verde; 10-05-2009 at 12:14 AM..
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:01 PM
 
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Oh and by the way, does anybody remember the old Bara Nada Lodge on Pima road near Ridgeway. Nice place. I wonder whatever became of it.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:53 AM
 
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Oh and another real nice place was the Peacock Inn on FT. Lowell. I think it was between Craycroft and Swan. Or maybe Swan and Columbus. Something like that.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Baja Arizona
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I remember Larry's Hideout on Mission Road... which was later renamed as The Hideout...
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