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Old 09-05-2008, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Very sad... have our social skills/attitudes deteriorated this badly?

Is this just a "big city" thing, or what?
It's a bit of an exaggeration, but not much. You know very well who you can and can't make eye contact with in such a city. I'm sure there are those that would not take so kindly to eye contact and a hello here.

I'm sure if I were outside of the Legg Mason building in downtown B-more at 5:00 and said hi to a businessman leaving for the day, I would not get shot.

Now, if I were on the west side (of B-more) at night... that's another story. There are neighborhoods that are basically "owned" by those that will defend it from a threat or perceived threat. Although I'm not physically threatening I might look like a government official, social worker, undercover cop, etc.

Some of this could apply to parts of Tucson, too. Because Tucson is so much bigger geographically, it's a lot easier to avoid those potential areas of town. In Baltimore, there are a lot of neighborhoods crammed into a small area and that leads to bad news. I've been in supposed "good" areas of Baltimore and was carjacked one month, and had a car stolen the next month. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to bash Baltimore, rather trying to answer your question.

It's a hard question to answer, actually. I think there are a lot of underlying issues. Not just a "big city" thing. I read a book recently called "Fist, Stick, Knife, Gun" that dealt with this exact issue. It's an interesting read.

Sorry for the long, off-topic post.
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Old 09-05-2008, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Baja Arizona
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It's a bit of an exaggeration, but not much. You know very well who you can and can't make eye contact with in such a city. I'm sure there are those that would not take so kindly to eye contact and a hello here.

I'm sure if I were outside of the Legg Mason building in downtown B-more at 5:00 and said hi to a businessman leaving for the day, I would not get shot.

Now, if I were on the west side (of B-more) at night... that's another story. There are neighborhoods that are basically "owned" by those that will defend it from a threat or perceived threat. Although I'm not physically threatening I might look like a government official, social worker, undercover cop, etc.

Some of this could apply to parts of Tucson, too. Because Tucson is so much bigger geographically, it's a lot easier to avoid those potential areas of town. In Baltimore, there are a lot of neighborhoods crammed into a small area and that leads to bad news. I've been in supposed "good" areas of Baltimore and was carjacked one month, and had a car stolen the next month. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to bash Baltimore, rather trying to answer your question.

It's a hard question to answer, actually. I think there are a lot of underlying issues. Not just a "big city" thing. I read a book recently called "Fist, Stick, Knife, Gun" that dealt with this exact issue. It's an interesting read.

Sorry for the long, off-topic post.

Thanx for your time on this, mdtoaz!
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Tucson!
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We also really like the people there. They are nothing like here. They were very friendly. It's nice to hear someone say "Good morning" or just say "Hello."
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We've said the same thing... People actually make eye contact with you and say "hi"... just walking down the street. Very strange. Try that in Baltimore and you might end up getting shot!

I also agree. Part of why I liked Buffalo is because people are so much friendlier than near NYC, where I grew up.

People are even friendlier here in Tucson. Doesn't a day go by that I'm not in a store or wherever, and people are genuinely nicer and friendlier.
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Baja Arizona
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I also agree. Part of why I liked Buffalo is because people are so much friendlier than near NYC, where I grew up.

People are even friendlier here in Tucson. Doesn't a day go by that I'm not in a store or wherever, and people are genuinely nicer and friendlier.

Wow... I never realized just how friendly I really was, and how much eye contact I made...

I wonder if its 'cause we Tuxsin locals are kinda far removed from the "real world", or beaten path, or sumthin'?

Kinda like when Columbus and the "Indians" first saw each other...
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Old 09-06-2008, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Tucson!
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Tuxsin

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Old 09-07-2008, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Baja Arizona
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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I love Tucson and I am proud of it. I have found myself repeatedly taking landscape pics on my deliveries at work because it's just so gorgeous out here. 13 years and still happy here
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Baja Arizona
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I love Tucson and I am proud of it. I have found myself repeatedly taking landscape pics on my deliveries at work because it's just so gorgeous out here. 13 years and still happy here

Yay, Subie!
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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I will be a sad panda next year...my husband is applying for law schools and most likely won't be going to one even in Arizona...probably California. Don't get me wrong; I lived in CA for a while and it had it's moments, but I never felt the "sigh of relief and relaxation" when flying home to CA when I lived there. I ALWAYS get that feeling flying home to Tucson.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Valencia West-Sonoran Ranch
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Have to add, great to see the positiveness about Tucson. I moved to Willcox 4 years ago from po-dunk Nebraska, then to Tucson 8 months ago (just moved out of the apt into a house yay!) I have never felt more at home since I left NE and it's hilarious considering aside from a couple months in a Denver suburb, this is the biggest place I've ever lived. It took my spouse 2 years to talk me into moving here and now I wouldn't go anywhere else for the world. Our first night in Tucson, I went to Safeway and had two total strangers strike up a conversation (not workers either) The job market isn't near as bad a people make it seem, we are a 2 income household, I have only a GED and 6 months of college (certification course), and my spouse doesn't even have his GED, and we make enough to be considered middle class. The only thing I'm not impressed with is the school systems, they just don't seem to challenge kids enough, and they don't pay enough attention to the rest of them, but that's a problem all over Arizona, and actually the US right now. The night life isn't a huge party and dance scene, but if I'm going to go to the bar I'd rather just have a couple of drinks and relax anyway. They do however have some really good restaurants that are semi-upclass without way over spending. Aside from schools and construction on the I-10 (ugh) I really can't find too much bad to say about Tucson!
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