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Old 10-31-2008, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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Does anybody know where you're supposed to complain of barking dogs?
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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Oh, I just found this:

Jim, I’m in Tucson, Arizona, and, yes, I have tried to get relief through our local animal complaint resolution system. And I got none whatsoever.

Here’s what we Tucsonans have to go through if there’s a problem with a barking dog:

The first step you are to take is to make a complaint to Pima County Animal Care, which then sends you and the dog owner a letter.

This letter includes suggestions that the dog owner can implement to quell the barking. The letter also advises you, the complainant, to give the owner 7-10 days to work things out, and, if that doesn’t work, you can go to mediation.

Then, if mediation fails, you can contact Animal Care for an official barking log, which they can use to cite the owner of the dog. Which means that, in the meantime, you’ve had to put up with a lot of nuisance barking.

My comments on the above system:

Letters: If the writing of letters to encourage people to get control of their barking dogs works so well, then why do so many parts of this city sound like a kennel? And offering suggestions to irresponsible dog owners is useless. Enforcement with penalties is what’s really needed.

Mediation: Personally, I think that mediation is a waste of time, because it is between a law-breaker and a victim. Mediation assumes some kind of reasonableness on either side. Might as well mediate with a burglar. The problem is that the authorities keep viewing dog barking abuse as “a neighborhood dispute”, which it is not. It is one person assaulting another.

Barking logs and citations: By the time things get to this point, you, the complainant, have already had to put up with a lot of barking. And there’s nothing that guarantees that an irresponsible dog owner, and Tucson has far too many of those, will be deterred by a citation and a fine.

I would like to conclude by saying that I have no problem with well-behaved dogs. They are a joy to their owners, and to everyone else around them. A dog that behaves well is one that the owner went to the time and trouble to train. On the other hand, dogs that are incessant barkers are nuisances that deprive the rest of us of our peace of mind and the enjoyment of our property.


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Did anybody have any luck following the "procedures" ...?
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Does anybody know where you're supposed to complain of barking dogs?
Definitely, A TOUGHIE, Sierra!

I keep a big box of Milk-Bones in my pantry when the barking dogs down the street start to get on my nerves. Not a permanent fix but a little chit chat and a couple of bones quiets them for the time being.

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Old 10-31-2008, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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Definitely, A TOUGHIE, Sierra!

I keep a big box of Milk-Bones in my pantry when the barking dogs down the street start to get on my nerves. Not a permanent fix but a little chit chat and a couple of bones quiets them for the time being.

! ! ! !
Oh, believe me, Bummer, I've plenty of better ideas of my own, but that's the US - the land of the dogs!

It's disgusting! If you wanna have a damn dog, take care of it and take it for walks as you should! This dog is periodically chained out on the patio throughout the day. Seems like somebody lazy is home all day and that's how the dog is "taken care of"! What else is there to do on a small patio other than bark... I'd bark, too! It's cruel to everybody, dog included.

I took a couple of days off in order to rest. Instead, I'm tired and pissed. Was hoping to get enough sleep in order to enjoy Halloween, but courtesy of these idiots have a headache instead and sore shoulders from attempting to sleep on the floor of the only room not exposed to that side. There's always one bad apple terrorizing everybody! At first I was happy with good neighbors and figured as soon as construction work ends it'll be peaceful. Well, as soon as the next row of houses was finished, those "pet lovers" moved in...
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Oh, believe me, Bummer, I've plenty of better ideas of my own, but that's the US - the land of the dogs!

It's disgusting! If you wanna have a damn dog, take care of it and take it for walks as you should! This dog is periodically chained out on the patio throughout the day. Seems like somebody lazy is home all day and that's how the dog is "taken care of"! What else is there to do on a small patio other than bark... I'd bark, too! It's cruel to everybody, dog included.
No expert here, Sierra . . . however, I believe there are either Tucson or Pima County laws against "chaining" an unsupervised animal. Possibly you need to start with The Mayor's Office or your local County Supervisor.

In my case, the two dogs are just lonely. They are very outgoing and friendly dogs merely barking for attention because they are locked up on a fairly small patio from about sunrise until very late afternoon. I take 'em bones because I feel sorry for them and know it isn't their fault.

Luckily, unlike you, I am far enough away that I don't hear them except while outside.
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Old 10-31-2008, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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No expert here, Sierra . . . however, I believe there are either Tucson or Pima County laws against "chaining" an unsupervised animal. Possibly you need to start with The Mayor's Office or your local County Supervisor.

In my case, the two dogs are just lonely. They are very outgoing and friendly dogs merely barking for attention because they are locked up on a fairly small patio from about sunrise until very late afternoon. I take 'em bones because I feel sorry for them and know it isn't their fault.

Luckily, unlike you, I am far enough away that I don't hear them except while outside.
Well, I haven't noticed if it's chained or not, but being alone of a tiny patio is as good as being chained... I understand it's not really the dog's fault. It's the irresponsible owners' fault. I have closer neighbors who have a dog, but I haven't heard theirs barking once! Actually, the only reason I know they have a dog is because I saw it when we were all moving in.
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Old 10-31-2008, 02:46 PM
 
Location: West of the Catalinas East of the Tortolitas
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I'm surprised Pima County doesn't have an animal control division that takes care of stray animals, loud or barking animals, wild animals, etc. We have two Yorkies who bark at everything, but they're indoor dogs. If they see a leaf fall, they bark. Actually they bark at everything that moves, but that's their nature. Yorkies are barkers. We use the sign language command for quiet for them and it works every time, as we used it since the first time they barked inappropriately. If the burglar is coming through the front door, I WANT them to bark! Otherwise, I'd think there'd be an animal control department for the county. JMHO
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Old 10-31-2008, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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I'm surprised Pima County doesn't have an animal control division that takes care of stray animals, loud or barking animals, wild animals, etc.
I'm sure there is. That's why I'm asking. Not that I really feel like going through God knows what red tape...

IMO dogs belong inside in high-density area.
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Old 10-31-2008, 10:18 PM
 
Location: West of the Catalinas East of the Tortolitas
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In my Colorado county, we have animal control. We just call the number, (it's listed in the phone book) and within an hour or so (it's a big, rural county with one animal control officer), she'll respond. If it's a loose stray, we put it on a leash and she takes it to the shelter. If it's a matter of barking dogs, and we know who's dogs they are, she contacts them and issues them a citation. We have a pretty efficient animal control department even though we only have one officer. For things like bobcats, or other wild animals, we have the Division of Wildlife who are fabulous in their response. We often have bears in trees or other wildlife where they shouldn't be, and the response is almost immediate.
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:45 AM
 
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It is not illegal to have a dog that barks. It is illegal to let a dog bark excessively. Trouble is, "excessive" is not well defined and is subjective.

Some people's dogs bark all day. Some people can't tolerate a single bark. Between these extremes is where peace can be found.

Don't just assume that your neighbor is a jerk who will not be reasonable. I went to mediation over my dogs, and it helped. I am not like a "burglar" and I was not "assaulting" anyone. In fact, before we went to the mediation, I felt as violated as my neighbors did because of actions on their part. To me, they were the "law-breakers" and I was the "victim."

I could not promise my dogs would never bark (what my neighbors wanted). But I did agree to make sure they aren't barking all day, which I did not realize they were doing because I wasn't home. (The dogs were not locked outside. I have a dog door, so they were going in and out as desired.) And I had absolutely no intention of making my neighbors' their lives miserable.

Mediation is a good tool and solves the majority of disputes over barking, according to the mediation service the county uses. My mediation session was very intense. There was a lot of anger and frustration on both sides. But the process forces people to listen and be reasonable, and the parties usually make an agreement everyone can live with.

I suggest you try it. If the objective is to not have to listen to dogs barking, there's a decent chance you'll achieve that.

I know it has worked so far for my neighbors and me.
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