07-18-2009, 08:09 AM
Location: TUCSON
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In looking at houses for sale and for lease, I note that many are equipped with evaporative central cooling systems. How well are these working during this monsoon season for you folks who have such systems?
Last edited by joskel; 07-18-2009 at 08:50 AM ..
07-18-2009, 10:21 AM
Location: Tucson, AZ
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They don't work all that well when the humidity is up. All in all - its just maybe a couple weeks total through out the year.
07-18-2009, 10:41 AM
Location: Southern Arizona
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I agree with Chorizo, Joskel.
07-18-2009, 10:49 AM
Location: Baja Arizona
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Quote:
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Bummer
I agree with Chorizo, Joskel. Swamp Coolers are great for about ten months a year here in Tucson and not quite practical during July and August but better than nothing. They even work well during warm afternoons during the Winter months. Also, you are absolutely correct, top performance requires a few "air escapes" around your home. Bottom line . . . Dual Cooling systems are the best of both worlds but, due to additional installation costs, they are becoming more rare.
What Bumster & Reezo sez...
07-18-2009, 11:46 AM
Location: Sonoran Desert
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When I lived in Tucson, evap is all we (and most) had. Since I left, people have gotten too soft and have too much money so now a/c is the norm. Evap worked fine for all but a couple days and even those were not bad.
07-18-2009, 12:02 PM
Location: Tucson
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Chorizo
They don't work all that well when the humidity is up. All in all - its just maybe a couple weeks total through out the year.
It's more like a couple of months and counting! If this year is a sign of any pattern forming, I wanna commit harakiri!
07-18-2009, 03:13 PM
Location: TUCSON
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Dual Cooling systems are the best of both worlds but, due to additional installation costs, they are becoming more rare.
So if I had a place with a pre-existing central swamp cooler unit, you are suggesting a refrigerated AC unit in a separate duct system. I presume this would be an add-on to the central heating system. I had something like this in west Texas where the swamp cooler had a duct system in the attic space and vented through the ceiling. The heating system was a central unit with ducting that was under the floors and vented upward.
Any experiences with the mini split AC units? I think I would opt for these, probably only in the bedrooms (
Products List - HEAT PUMPS / DUCTLESS AIR CONDITIONERS / ACCESSORIES and
Energy Savers: Ductless, Mini-Split Air Conditioners [The first link has a good explanation of split unit installation, for those who have no clue to what I am referring.] We used the dual zone split system in our house on the Nayarit coast (Mexico) and it was great. We cooled only the room(s) we were in and left the rest open for ventilation and ceiling fan cooling.
Any experience with the mini split units in Tucson? How large a BTU would likely be needed to keep a bedroom (say 12 ft x 13 ft) comfortable during monsoon season in Tucson?
07-18-2009, 03:15 PM
Location: West side
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Imagine a swampcooler in the monsoon season as if you are sitting in a sauna that is putting out cold steam instead of hot. You are swaeting, but sweating cold. Good thing about swamp coolers is that they are less expensive to operate I think.
07-18-2009, 03:32 PM
Location: Tucson
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Quote:
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szupergipsy
Good thing about swamp coolers is that they are less expensive to operate I think.
That would be about the only good thing about them.
07-18-2009, 04:23 PM
Location: Southern Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
joskel
So if I had a place with a pre-existing central swamp cooler unit, you are suggesting a refrigerated AC unit in a separate duct system. I presume this would be an add-on to the central heating system. I had something like this in west Texas where the swamp cooler had a duct system in the attic space and vented through the ceiling. The heating system was a central unit with ducting that was under the floors and vented upward.
Definitely no expert here, Joskel.
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Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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