10-07-2008, 06:29 PM
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Broken Arrow has a lot to offer for families.
10-08-2008, 01:00 PM
Location: Tulsa, OK, Traffic Circle Area
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Broken Arrow has a lot to offer for families.
Unless your last name right now happens to be Sisney.
This whole thing stinks to high heaven. Sounds to me like some board members need to be removed from their position.
Tulsa World: BA superintendent files lawsuit
10-12-2008, 02:30 PM
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Dear "Carolinemoveswhere"
10-19-2008, 10:52 AM
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Hi all (or is that, ya'll?) I have posted several times in the last year about moving to Oklahoma. Thank you so much for your patience....
Here I go again... We have about narrowed things down to the Tulsa area, based on topography and other things. And, we were thinking that Jenks would be at the top of our list. But, then I was speaking to someone (my childs classmate's mom), and they apparently lived in the Tulsa area when her older kids were younger. She still has friends there and travels frequently to visit and attend special events. She told me that Jenks was nice, but that Bixby was the place to be. She said the teachers still pray with the kids, as well as the high school football team, that your kids don't have to be star athletes to actually get playing time, that they can still get into top notch universities, that you can still get a bit of property and a nice house for cheap. She said Jenks was getting too big and the schools were huge.
As our kids are in early elementary school, schools are hugely important to us. We don't want them to feel lost in the shuffle, but still want them be prepared for college. Right now they are in Christian private school and we LOVE it. Honestly, that is about the only thing keeping one foot here. The school is small (300 in elementary), well thought of in the community, a great basketball and football program. (we've even got some bball players playing pro now) But, they have a great leadership team, which makes academics a huge priority. Biblical based teaching that is awesome (my 2nd grader knows more about the old testament than I do now)
We are not "Bible thumpers" in the least and would fit in with the overall "live and let live" Oklahoma mentality. (Hey, I went to my first gay wedding just two weekends ago
) But, do take our religion seriously, so a big church would be great.
But, then another friend who lives in Bartlesville said that if we move to Bixby, better buy good flood insurance. Well, I'm not too keen on living where it floods all the time!!!
And, he said that people tell him Bixby used to be nice but that it's not so much anymore. Plus, is Bixby super country?
I'm going to be really honest here, and I hope no one gets mad....We are middle to upper middle class and would like to live near similar folks. My husband and I are both well educated. We want to hang out with our WASPy friends on the weekends and talk about little Susie's ballet lessons and little Johnie's baseball team. We want to talk politics over glasses of merlot. But, we want the kids to experience raising animals and gardening, too. My husband wants to putt around on his lawn tractor and sit back with a glass of tea and pride himself on a job well done. We want to take forever at the grocery store because we run into so many people we know. I hope all this doesn't sound totally stupid. I guess I feel the need to apologize for my little "dreams" as I was raised very blue collar and have worked liked the dickens to get to where I am. But, I hate feeling exhausted all the time and want to get to a simpler life.
So, what do you think of the Tulsa suburbs for our family?
Carolinemoveswhere,
Your post was very decent and based on all of your criteria mentioned, I really think that Broken Arrow would be the perfect fit for you and your family. They say that Tulsa is "belt buckle of the bible" and you will find a good number of Churches in Broken Arrow. It is located in southeast Tulsa county, and all in all, it is a nice and safe city to reside. Everybody is friendly, there are a lot of nice neighborhoods, Broken Arrow schools are good, and I really think you will feel at home in this city.
10-27-2008, 02:29 PM
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I would recommend looking further into Owasso if I were you. It is largely upper middle class, particularly in the northeastern quarter of it. It has also has quite a bit shopping and restaurants. Further east, you will find houses in the millions range. As far as Christian schools go, there is Rejoice Christian Schools which goes all the way up to high school now. They have athletics as well and after-care.
10-27-2008, 11:29 PM
Location: Tulsa, OK, Traffic Circle Area
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I would recommend looking further into Owasso if I were you. It is largely upper middle class, particularly in the northeastern quarter of it. It has also has quite a bit shopping and restaurants. Further east, you will find houses in the millions range. As far as Christian schools go, there is Rejoice Christian Schools which goes all the way up to high school now. They have athletics as well and after-care.
The growth rate of everything in Owasso is insane; that's why a lot of restaurants and other businesses are closing. I've said this before. Owasso got too big for it's britches and it's going to pay the price to some extent.
You can translate that as 'it grew too fast for the infrastructure to keep up'.
The city has to have a plan for it. I think they just promoted the city and started throwing darts on a board without thinking what they were doing as far as growth and infrastructure was concerned.
10-28-2008, 01:04 AM
Location: North Idaho
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I really appreciate this thread and all the feedback contained in it. My wife and I also want to move from California sometime next year, and are interested in Missouri (I was born and raised near St. Louis, but have never been to Oklahoma) and also the Tulsa area.
Any opinions on Sapulpa? Ideally, we would like to move to an older Victorian-style home. From perusing some real estate sites, it looks like Sapulpa has a number of old Victorians and bungalows, but not Jenks or Bixby. I also saw to my pleasant surprise that Broken Arrow recently won a Top 10 "Best Places to Raise a Family" award from a parenting website, so BA is a place we're eyeballing too.
Finally, how is the topography in and around Sapulpa? More flat, or are there any rolling hills? Thank you so much!
10-28-2008, 11:51 PM
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I live in Broken Arrow so I can speak for that community. It is very family oriented and the schools are great. The new School Improvements list for 2008 No Child Left Behind came out and Broken Arrow did not have a single school on the list. That is good for a district with more than 16,000 students. Tulsa had several, I believe Jenks had one and Union had 2. You might be able to find a victorian style home in the Broken Arrow area. There are certainly a lot of homes to choose from. Broken Arrow is rapidly growing, but at a healthy rate and growth is expected to pick up even more in the coming years. Over the last decade, BA has seen a lot of new housing developments and that has been the source of growth. Now, the commercial development is following those rooftops with a new Target slated to open in March 2009 and many other retailers following. This commercial growth began when Bass Pro Shops located a store here along the Broken Arrow Expressway.
10-29-2008, 11:45 AM
Location: Pawnee Nation
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Broken Arrow did not really begin a surge in population until the mid 60's. Prior to that it was a pretty small quiet ag community. the dramatic increase in population was part of the white flight from north Tulsa during that time that boosted both Broken Arrow and Jenks. You will find the type of housing you are looking for in mid-town Tulsa, Collinsville, Coweta, Sapulpa, Sand Springs, Okmulgee, Wagoner, Claremore, Skiatook, Bartlesville, Pawhuska, Bristow, Muskogee, Talhaquah, etc. Those are all areas whose growth and developent predated the 60's and did not experience the massive influx of the post WWII suburbia style and taste from the suburban areas between Admirla and 46th S North and the Osage line to the airport.
11-02-2008, 06:39 PM
Location: North Idaho
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Thank you both very much for your feedback!
Hopefully my wife and I will get the opportunity to visit BA, Sapulpa and the Tulsa area in May or June of 2009. We've flown back to my native Missouri several times, but haven't made it to Oklahoma yet.
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People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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) But, do take our religion seriously, so a big church would be great.
And, he said that people tell him Bixby used to be nice but that it's not so much anymore. Plus, is Bixby super country? 
