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Old 03-26-2012, 12:54 PM
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They may have moved Maude to the early AM because it was getting bad ratings. They may have paid Lear for the rights and had to show it sometime, but didn't want to waste a good time slot if nobody is watching. So they stick it in the middle of the night.

Yes, Hemsley was doing a play and Lear held the role open until he was finished. Henry was on a lot (I think he pretended to be George just to mess with Archie) before Hemsley joined the cast. After that Henry went to live with Chuck Cunningham and Coy and Vance Duke, never to be seen or mentioned again.

Never understood how a maid in upstate New York suddenly appeared in a Chicago housing project.

I've seen Maude a few times and it never did much for me, but I still love AITF.
Good Times is not a spinoff of Maude
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:55 PM
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I heard a slightly different story to Sherman Hemsley coming to AITF. Sherman Hemsley was cast as George Jefferson but was involved in another project and could not do both. So they cast Mel Stewart to play Henry until Sherman was free to join the cast. I don't know if this is true but I wouldn't doubt it.

Now about Maude...I loved the character on AITF and the Maude pilot episode when her daughter Carol was getting married. I still enjoy watching Maude but not all epsiodes. There have been some episodes that were funny but overall...not so much. I thought the supporting cast (Rue McClanahan, Conrad Bain, Adrienne Barbeau, Bill Macy) was strong enough to carry the show but there was just something with most episodes and it hurt the humor. I don't know if it was politics or feminism or what but it just make me laugh.

Let's not forget Florida Evans (Maude's maid) who left for Chicago with her family and started the television show Good Times. That is a little known spin-off of Maude.
Good times was not a spinoff of Maude. The character Florida Evans was written off Maude so she can star in a NEW COMEDY at the time which was called Good Times.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:49 PM
 
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A spin-off is when one character is taken from one show and moved to another. While major changes were made to Florida and her back story, it was still the same character.

So while the Evans family never mentioned Maude, it was still a spin-off.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:57 PM
 
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Good Times is not a spinoff of Maude
I believe it was a spin-off of Maude.

Good Times - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good Times is an American sitcom that originally aired from February 8, 1974, until August 1, 1979, on the CBS television network. It was created by Eric Monte and Michael Evans, and developed by Norman Lear, the series' primary executive producer.

Good Times is a spin-off of Maude, which was itself a spin-off of All in the Family along with The Jeffersons.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:59 PM
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A spin-off is when one character is taken from one show and moved to another. While major changes were made to Florida and her back story, it was still the same character.

So while the Evans family never mentioned Maude, it was still a spin-off.
False, a spinoff is when a character is written off a show INTO another show to maintain the connection between both the parent show and spinoff.

The Florida character was written OUT of the script so she can star in a new show that had no connection to maude. It's a big difference between being written OFF and written OUT.

Written out means..."It's no way the character can ever return to that show"

Written off means that the character can return to the show in the future.
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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False, a spinoff is when a character is written off a show INTO another show to maintain the connection between both the parent show and spinoff.

The Florida character was written OUT of the script so she can star in a new show that had no connection to maude. It's a big difference between being written OFF and written OUT.

Written out means..."It's no way the character can ever return to that show"

Written off means that the character can return to the show in the future.
Where did you read this?
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:06 PM
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Where did you read this?
I;m a TVResearcher in my sparetime and have several newspapers and magazines I collected over the years to back up that good times is not a spinoff.
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:08 PM
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I believe it was a spin-off of Maude.

Good Times - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good Times is an American sitcom that originally aired from February 8, 1974, until August 1, 1979, on the CBS television network. It was created by Eric Monte and Michael Evans, and developed by Norman Lear, the series' primary executive producer.

Good Times is a spin-off of Maude, which was itself a spin-off of All in the Family along with The Jeffersons.

Wikipedia is wrong and I have discovered quotes from the executive producer of Good Times saying that it's not a spinoff. His name is Alan manings and he was quoted in 1975 Ebony magazine saying that it's not really a spinoff.
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:16 PM
 
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Like Archie, Maude was a character written to be very abrasive (almost antagonistic) and "in your face" about her political and personal views.

It worked for the male character and show, but not that much for the female version/show.
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:20 PM
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Like Archie, Maude was a character written to be very abrasive (almost antagonistic) and "in your face" about her political and personal views.

It worked for the male character and show, but not that much for the female version/show.
Maybe Maude is more suited for local tv since it doesn't grab a large audience like All in the Family and Good Times
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