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I have not noticed the porn scenes on Netflix. Which shows is it?
How was the US Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart said I know it when I see it. The problem is different cultures and people within a culture draw the line at a different spot. For some a visible nipple on a human female or penis is all it takes
What we call prestige TV often has the simulated sex scenes or have the actors touch a prosthetic instead of the other actor's body parts however the examples of that I can name right now are on HBO Max, I don't know if they were on NetFlix streaming in the past but the DVDs I saw them on came from them.
Not that it matters perhaps, but Borgias was originally a Showtime show. not Netflix
Actually it does matter because I don’t think many original Netflix series have the graphic sex scenes, but it seems to be almost a requirement for a series on Showtime, HBO, or Starz. I was fine with it at first but it does get old. Many of those historical shows would be good to watch with the kids but I can’t because of the unnecessary scenes that really don’t add anything to the plot.
I pick my novels carefully, and I pick my television shows and movies carefully. I don't stories involving drugs or crime solving (with occasional exceptions due to cast). So I avoid them. There's lots to pick from.
So you missed one of the best series on television I’ve ever seen, Breaking Bad and it’s close second, the prequel Better Call Saul.
I resisted watching for years because I had absolutely no desire to watch a show about meth, but I finally gave in and watched. I’m so glad I did! I normally hate that type of content but the show creators really know how to write and get good performances out of their actors. I highly recommend both shoes in the order they were released.
There are several Netflix series with them. Lately, I've been watching the Borgias and it's like nobody can seem to keep it inside their pants for long.
So true. Sick and tired of it. Same with Prime and Hulu. A lot of them just open up,with 5em in bed going away at it. So much for that show! Again! I get it that’s it’s easier to just write several sex scenes and a few car chases than actual dialog. Boring.
There's a lot of violence in fictional content. There's a lot of sex in fictional content.
Why?
Because those are very existential things. Violence threatens out liberty and out very lives. Of course it is going to be common in the dramatic narrative, because the dramatic narrative is built on conflict. And what greater conflict is there than the struggle of life and death?
But the same is true of sex. We are sexual beings. Sex is a basic element of human pair-bonding. It creates life, and that creation of life dominates the lives of most human beings for the roughly two decades it takes to make an adult person from scratch. So of course sexual content is going to be common in dramatic narratives. The only way it won't be is when the censors step in and forbid it.
This thread is about sex but I mention violence because of the similar dynamic but also because of the radically different approaches to it from the usual suspects. Those are the people who can watch no end of people getting shot, stabbed, blown up, run over, and killed in a variety of other creative ways. And? They watch on. But as soon as a nipple pops out they start wringing their hands.
Such people have profoundly screw-up priorities.
PS - Yes, I know, they'll protest that they don't approve of violence, either. But they're not starting threads about it. They're not using ridiculous hyperbole ('porn' ) to describe violence in TV. Because they've seen, literally, many thousands of killings on television and they don't think twice about them. But boobs or butts or - OMG! - genitalia! Quick, pass the smelling salts!
I think it is fine if it moves along the plot, but there are some shows where it is totally gratuitous. For example, Tiny Pretty Things. It’s essentially a Center Stage type of show with a murder mystery, but there are co-ed (naked) saunas and tons of sex. The acting is pretty wooden since most of the actors are real dancers, but why not then focus more on the dancing than having them have sex with each other every 5 minutes?
I don’t mind the historical shows. A lot of those historical figures were known to have tons of affairs/liaisons, so it would be disingenuous to ignore that aspect.
Couldn't agree more. It's a person's choice to live in 1947, but reality today dictates drugs and crime and sex. They all sell. The problem is picking the chaff from the wheat, and the two shows you mention, katygirl, were stellar. I actually preferred BCS to BB.
Programming can either be good or sensationalistic. We know which is which, and I avoid the latter.
One of the glories of this age of television in which we live is that series like Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul can be made at all.
There's a lot of whining about 'political correctness', though this is usually just an excuse to dismiss non-male, non-white, non-straight and non-Christian actors and stories as having any basis other than being cast or told specifically for those attributes. Those who issue those complaints, however, in variably extol the 'good old days' of television - when there was little to no room for non-Christians (except as villains) or non-gays (save occasionally, but only as camp or as villains) or non-whites (except when specifically necessary for an ethnic role - a black series, extras in Hawaii 5-O, etc.) and only subordinate roles for non-males. And somehow, they cannot see that all of those limitations were themselves political correctness manifest.
And bad protagonists? Walter White, a murdering drug kingpin? Jimmy McGill/Saul Goodman, a crooked lawyer? The thought of airing a series that made the protagonist - the good guy - someone like that? It would have given network executives a heart attack. There is no way those series - or ones like The Sopranos, or Dexter, or many others - would have ever been greenlighted, for fear of offending the self-appointed morality police. Again, that's the very definition of political correctness.
But, of course, it's never political correctness when *they're* the ones offended...
Couldn't agree more. It's a person's choice to live in 1947, but reality today dictates drugs and crime and sex. They all sell. The problem is picking the chaff from the wheat, and the two shows you mention, katygirl, were stellar. I actually preferred BCS to BB.
Programming can either be good or sensationalistic. We know which is which, and I avoid the latter.
I love both shows for different reasons. It’s hard for me to choose but I have to give the edge to BB because it was such a crazy ride. BCS is a slow burn but I really love the characters and the law part is so realistic except the coddling of Chuck by everyone. I just can’t imagine so many law firms and courts making such accommodations for anyone like that. I don’t care how much his reputation precedes him. But other than that I thought the dynamics of each of the law firms was spot on. And Jimmy really is a square peg in a round hole there.
I think it is fine if it moves along the plot, but there are some shows where it is totally gratuitous. For example, Tiny Pretty Things. It’s essentially a Center Stage type of show with a murder mystery, but there are co-ed (naked) saunas and tons of sex. The acting is pretty wooden since most of the actors are real dancers, but why not then focus more on the dancing than having them have sex with each other every 5 minutes?
I don’t mind the historical shows. A lot of those historical figures were known to have tons of affairs/liaisons, so it would be disingenuous to ignore that aspect.
I was just thinking of Tiny Pretty Things as I went through the thread. I started watching it this week and noticed the same thing.
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) to describe violence in TV. Because they've seen, literally, many thousands of killings on television and they don't think twice about them. But boobs or butts or - OMG! - genitalia! Quick, pass the smelling salts!
