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Old 12-20-2021, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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I thought it was very well done. Episodes 1 & 2 dropped last night. I love a well made western, beautiful cinematography. Tim McGraw seems to have the chops to pull off the role of the early Dutton men. Sam Elliot was made for the role he's in. Looking forward to Billy Bob Thornton showing up....he may have already, I only watched ep 1 last night.

I'm trying to figure out the lineage, James Dutton maybe John Dutton's Great Grandfather? Episode one was narrated by and from the point of view of James' & Margaret's (Faith Hill) oldest daughter Elsa, who is coming of age at the beginning of the story.
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Old 12-20-2021, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
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Yes, very well done. Tim owns this role. Faith is no slouch, I believe her character will grow stronger as time goes on. Sam Elliott, will be Sam Elliott. Thomas, Sam's partner on the show, is a strong, quiet man seems to be well cast as well. Billy Bob shows up in ep2.
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Old 12-20-2021, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I'm trying to figure out the lineage, James Dutton maybe John Dutton's Great Grandfather?
I, too, was thinking about lineage. I think great-grandfather is about right. Current John Dutton in his 60's, so his dad probably born in the 1930's which means grandfather was born 1905, which means 1883 John Dutton at 8 or 10 y/o is great-grandfather.

I wouldn't have wanted the life of those women.

Just saw "Heartland" w/Conchata Ferrell - about a family of Wyoming/Montana settlers, based on a memoir. Described as "stark" and it certainly is. The silence, the isolation, the unrelenting hard labor. Saw this film years ago, always remembered it. Shown again two nights ago on Movies!! - should really be shown far more often - and on PBS - it's good one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_(film)

A little pricey on DVD - $24.87 - but seems there are buyers. A classic, imo.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/30212109272...3ABFBMwLukl7tf

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Old 12-20-2021, 04:02 PM
 
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I, too, was thinking about lineage. I think great-grandfather is about right. Current John Dutton in his 60's, so his dad probably born in the 1930's which means grandfather was born 1905, which means 1883 John Dutton at 8 or 10 y/o is great-grandfather.
I guess that would make the 5 year old Dutton boy in "1883" the grandfather of modern day John Dutton?
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Old 12-20-2021, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I guess that would make the 5 year old Dutton boy in "1883" the grandfather of modern day John Dutton?
John Dutton is maybe 65 y/o - born 1956
His father maybe born 1930 (frame of reference - I am 80 y/o - (15 y/o older than Dutton), my dad was born in 1912)
John's father's father born maybe 1905 - grandfather - when 1883 character is 30.
1883 character born maybe 1775 - great grandfather

As the other poster conjectured, I think the 1883 boy is a great grandfather unless these guys had their kids late in life. Is that likely? Women married very young in those days, would assume most of the men did as well?

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Old 12-20-2021, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Hold the phone…Am I the only one who saw the Tom Hanks cameo?
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Old 12-21-2021, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Ann Arbor MI
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My understanding is going forward it will be on Paramount Plus at $5 a month?
We watched episode 1 thru Hulu on Paramount "lite"
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Old 12-21-2021, 07:16 AM
 
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John Dutton is maybe 65 y/o - born 1956
His father maybe born 1930 (frame of reference - I am 80 y/o - (15 y/o older than Dutton), my dad was born in 1912)
John's father's father born maybe 1905 - grandfather - when 1883 character is 30.
1883 character born maybe 1775 - great grandfather

As the other poster conjectured, I think the 1883 boy is a great grandfather unless these guys had their kids late in life. Is that likely? Women married very young in those days, would assume most of the men did as well?
Because women died in childbirth fairly often not unusual for man to have 2-3 wives all usually married young and last wife outlived husband
Sam Elliot’s wife was his age when smallpox killed her…IMO that is unusual because more likely she would have been exposed when younger woman and either survived or died.
Smallpox very contagious… having the German man have it and no others he was in close contact showed symptoms not likely either…
Sheridan is using some aspects of life back then but not following through…
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Old 12-21-2021, 07:18 AM
 
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Hold the phone…Am I the only one who saw the Tom Hanks cameo?
I saw it
Wonder what motivated him to do it
BillyBob I get
He had great cameo as Courtland—a real figure in FTW history
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Old 12-21-2021, 07:20 AM
 
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I, too, was thinking about lineage. I think great-grandfather is about right. Current John Dutton in his 60's, so his dad probably born in the 1930's which means grandfather was born 1905, which means 1883 John Dutton at 8 or 10 y/o is great-grandfather.

I wouldn't have wanted the life of those women.

Just saw "Heartland" w/Conchata Ferrell - about a family of Wyoming/Montana settlers, based on a memoir. Described as "stark" and it certainly is. The silence, the isolation, the unrelenting hard labor. Saw this film years ago, always remembered it. Shown again two nights ago on Movies!! - should really be shown far more often - and on PBS - it's good one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_(film)

A little pricey on DVD - $24.87 - but seems there are buyers. A classic, imo.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/30212109272...3ABFBMwLukl7tf

Like you I saw Heartland decades ago
Even then it was very unusual to have a female lead who was not that attractive carry a movie
Movie based on diaries of frontier women
They are the real heroes of the West!
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