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Old 05-18-2011, 08:21 AM
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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Wow. Tyler did a whole HALF of a percentage point better than Dallas. So, your point is???
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:48 AM
 
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Its a rounded number. Moderator cut: see comment The numbers fluctuate from month to month too...it could be less, it could be more this month. We won't know for sure till June, but Tyler has shown no signs of a worsening economy, & has in fact shown signs of a surge in growth if you will since the beginning of the year.

BTW there are no 100 on the mark cities in the list. I'm no rocket scientist either, but 7.6 percent is better than 8.1 or 8.3% & Tyler sure is closer to 100 than either big cities.

Do the math

Tyler MSA @ 200,000 population = 15,200 unemployed

Dallas-Fort Worth MSA @ 6,500,000 population = 526,500 unemployed
Why did you do the math for DFW, but not for Houston?
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:43 PM
 
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Why did you do the math for DFW, but not for Houston?
For the same reason he thinks that 102 means "Top 100" -- the ability to ignore reality to fit his bias.
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Old 05-18-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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Oh no!

Tyler texas didn't make the Top 10 list in Employment growth rate for March.

Look at table 4;
http://recenter.tamu.edu/pdf/1862.pdf

Table 4
Texas Metropolitan Areas Ranked by Employment Growth Rate,
March 2010 to March 2011
Rank Metro Area Percent Growth Rate
1 Odessa 6.1
2 Midland 5.4
3 Longview 3.0
4 Dallas-Plano-Irving 2.7
5 Waco 2.4
Texas 2.3
6 College Station-Bryan 2.3
7 McAllen-Edinburg-Mission 2.2
8 Corpus Christi 2.1
8 Amarillo 2.1
8 Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown 2.1
8 Killeen-Temple-Fort Hood 2.1
12 Beaumont-Port Arthur 1.9
12 Fort Worth-Arlington 1.9
14 Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos 1.8
14 San Angelo 1.8
16 Sherman-Denison 1.4
16 El Paso 1.4
18 Tyler 1.3
18 San Antonio-New Braunfels 1.3
20 Victoria 1.2
21 Lubbock 0.5
22 Texarkana 0.4
22 Wichita Falls 0.4
24 Laredo 0.5
24 Brownsville-Harlingen 0.5
26 Abilene 1.7
Source: Texas Workforce Commission
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Old 05-18-2011, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Oh no!

Tyler texas didn't make the Top 10 list in Employment growth rate for March.
And look at Longview up there in third place. We know where all the work is in East Texas...
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:46 AM
 
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It those statistics are correct (Tyler at 7.6%, Dallas 8.3%, Houston Houston 8.1%), we aren't talking about large differences in averages. What's more significant is that Dallas and Houston are in the millions of people, and Tyler is in tens of thousands (or hundred of thousands if you consider metro area).

You can look at this either way; "half empty" or "half-full". Half-empty: Dallas/Houston have larger populations, so there are larger numbers of unemployed people. Or, Dallas/Houston have larger populations, so the numbers of employed (and also number of businesses and jobs) are higher than Tyler. Tyler is much less diversified with it's economy. Mostly school, health, and manufacturing, with some service-oriented work thrown in. The jobs there are also of lower pay. You have to look at the pay of the jobs as well, not just simple numbers. That doesn't tell the full story.
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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It those statistics are correct (Tyler at 7.6%, Dallas 8.3%, Houston Houston 8.1%), we aren't talking about large differences in averages. What's more significant is that Dallas and Houston are in the millions of people, and Tyler is in tens of thousands (or hundred of thousands if you consider metro area).

You can look at this either way; "half empty" or "half-full". Half-empty: Dallas/Houston have larger populations, so there are larger numbers of unemployed people. Or, Dallas/Houston have larger populations, so the numbers of employed (and also number of businesses and jobs) are higher than Tyler. Tyler is much less diversified with it's economy. Mostly school, health, and manufacturing, with some service-oriented work thrown in. The jobs there are also of lower pay. You have to look at the pay of the jobs as well, not just simple numbers. That doesn't tell the full story.
All very good points. I would also contend that most immigrants from overseas or the US who move without jobs are moving to the major cities that they've heard of -- mainly Dallas or Houston. So Tyler doesn't have to worry about the immigrants to the extent that Dallas and Houston do. Not that it matters much.

If unemployed people from Dallas or Houston want to go to Tyler to find opportunity, they should have at it. Tyler is a nice town.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:09 PM
 
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Boy, as is known, I am a Tyler supporter. But to talk about Tyler and Jobs in the same sentence in positive manner for the last 3 years, ain't workin'.

Tyler sucks big time for jobs right now. Again, the city will not compete in getting good paying jobs to Tyler. Tom Mullins Economic Development Director even says so. Tyler continues to want to brag about having the lowest city property tax rate of any city in Texas over 15,000. Fact is true. How did they do it? Partly by using all the city sales taxes on infrastucture, and the like. But not a penny on job creation. A city like Tyler,Longview, even Midland, Abilene, somewhat Waco have to pay companies some kind of additional money, other than just a property tax break.

Talking about Tyler and job growth in the same breath is a joke. Also, sales tax rebates that are reported back to the cities each month, Tyler is near the worst. Near the bottom in sales tax rebate increases. Tylers average 0 to 2 plus percent increase month over month for the same reporting period from last year. While the state, I said, state average is 8 to 12 percent increase that's for the entire state. Not even the best performing cities the increases are much greater. Tyler has a very small but vocal anti tax group. It took five, (5) elections just to get a tiny larger jail approved in Tyler. Things will soon change are I will have to change my tile from Tyler is Special to Tyler was special. lol
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