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Old 12-21-2010, 09:51 PM
 
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That's all good and well but in the pics of the beautiful women above they don't look white in the American sense.
Really depends on the person. Many Puerto Ricans fought in many of the conflicts the United States has been involved in for instance, alongside Anglo-American personnel. Many Puerto Ricans play Anglo-American roles in Hollywood.

Race is very complicated, few people are truly not mixed if any. It has been found that even Negroid is obsolete (Divided into Congoid and Capoid). Most people would feel the least mixed places would be found in Sub-Saharan Africa, Northern Europe (Scandinavia, Iceland, Denmark), and Far East Asia (Korea, Japan). Still even these places have seen immigrants and intermixing in their long history.

That's why I am puzzled by racism, truly a form of bigotry resulting from lack of education. In other words racist are stupid.
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Old 12-23-2010, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Summerville
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Really depends on the person. Many Puerto Ricans fought in many of the conflicts the United States has been involved in for instance, alongside Anglo-American personnel. Many Puerto Ricans play Anglo-American roles in Hollywood.

Race is very complicated, few people are truly not mixed if any. It has been found that even Negroid is obsolete (Divided into Congoid and Capoid). Most people would feel the least mixed places would be found in Sub-Saharan Africa, Northern Europe (Scandinavia, Iceland, Denmark), and Far East Asia (Korea, Japan). Still even these places have seen immigrants and intermixing in their long history.

That's why I am puzzled by racism, truly a form of bigotry resulting from lack of education. In other words racist are stupid.
Truer words have never been said.....
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Old 12-23-2010, 09:23 AM
 
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Truer words have never been said.....
True, but this also shows that race is as much social, if not more so. Keep in mind, you have to think about how race came about and here's a great video about that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc
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Old 12-24-2010, 01:27 PM
 
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You know what puerto ricans are? They are black Americans in reverse

Pr's are mostly euro with some west African with a little Taino Indian thrown in there

Black Americans are mostly west African with some European and a little native American thrown in there
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Old 12-24-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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You know what puerto ricans are? They are black Americans in reverse

Pr's are mostly euro with some west African with a little Taino Indian thrown in there

Black Americans are mostly west African with some European and a little native American thrown in there
In many cases NA ancestry comes pretty close to equaling african ancestry in PR's.

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In a study done on Puerto Rican women born on the island but living in New York by Carolina Bonilla, Mark D. Shriver and Esteban Parra in 2004, the ancestry proportions corresponding to the three parental populations were found to be 53.3±2.8% European, 29.1±2.3% West African, and 17.6±2.4% Native American based on autosomal ancestry informative markers. Although autosomal markers tests seem to draw a more broad picture than that of single, gender-based mtDNA and Y-Chromosome tests, the problem with autosomnal DNA is in the archaic cateogries used: "European", "Sub-Saharan African", "East Asian" & "Native American". "Asian" (South, North or East) & "North African" are not included. These generalised categories may not take into account the complexity of migratory patterns across the Old World.
More interesting was to see how much of the population showed any markers of each region. From the women sampled, 98% had European ancestry markers, 87% had African ancestry markers, 84% had Native American ancestry markers, 5% showed only African and European markers, 4% showed mostly Native American and European markers, 2% showed only African markers, and 2% showed mostly European markers.[17]
These findings are consistent with the historical record that the native male Taino population was virtually wiped out shortly after the arrival of the European settlers to the Island.[
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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There is some racism in Puerto Rico, based on what I have observed and learned. My family is from PR and we visit every once in a few years. My grandpa didn't want his daughters [including my mom] to date guys who were "too dark" even though my grandpa is part black himself. But what I love about Puerto Rico is how inter-racial it is; most people seem have lots of different blood and that is a good thing in my opinion.
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Old 12-31-2010, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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There is some racism in Puerto Rico, based on what I have observed and learned. My family is from PR and we visit every once in a few years. My grandpa didn't want his daughters [including my mom] to date guys who were "too dark" even though my grandpa is part black himself. But what I love about Puerto Rico is how inter-racial it is; most people seem have lots of different blood and that is a good thing in my opinion.
My first job when I was 14 was at this bagel joint. The manager was a gay Puerto Rican who I got along with ok. Anyway one day we were talking and he said in his country I would be too dark to work in front with customers.

I replied I'm glad we're not in your country.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Texarkana
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I
disagree with much of this list,
Christina Aguilera, Jessica Alba, salma Hyack, selena gomez, Frankie Muniz and fergie don't have any black in them. where are you getting this false info from.
They don't look white either, except Frankie and Christina.

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Old 01-02-2011, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Texarkana
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Look White? And what would that be? You do realize race in the Unites States is different than in Europe. The American racial classification system is flawed. It's White, Black, Asian, Indigenous, and Pacific Islanders. Most Americans would include Hispanics/Latinos and Arabs which can be of any race or a combination, probably even a category for Mexicans if they could.



You could not be more wrong. Benecio Del Toro was born in Puerto Rico of SPANISH AND ITALIAN DECENT. He is 100% European.



It seems many Americans often forget this. Race is a social construct. It's existence disputed among anthropologist. One thing is for sure, it's not as simple as White, Black, Asian, Indigenous, Pacific Islander. It's a lot more complex than the American definition.



False. If someone of Puerto Rican decent comes to the United States and looks "White" they will be considered White. Especially if assimilated. Puerto Rico is a mixed race society very similar to that of Brazil. In Puerto Rico however things do lean much more to the White side of the fence for most than to the Black or Indigenous. So much immigration from Europe even as recent as WW2 (Jews throughout Europe) and when Castro took power (Jews from Cuba originally from Europe).

However, look at all the Americans who are Mixed Race and still considered White or Black. From Megan Fox and Johnny Depp to Halley Barry and Barrack Obama.

You seem to forget only 2 or 3 generations ago Irish, Germans, and Italians were not considered White. Even the terms Hispanic/Latino are American terms which have only been in use for a few decades. Before that many if not most mixed race people from Latin America were simply considered White. Look at Desi Arnaz from "I Love Lucy". Mixed Raced couples were unacceptable at that time (This is in the days of "Whites Only entrances") and it was widely known he was Cuban and there he was the star of a TV show in a relationship with a European decent American women. Genetically most Puerto Ricans have most in common with Southern Europeans but most do have Black and/or Indigenous ancestors. Believe it or not, many Europeans (Yes, those in Europe) have non-White ancestors in their lineage too.

Here is a list of some more multiracial celebrities you may have always thought were just White or Black:

-Nicole Richie (White/Black)
-Carmen Diaz (White/Black/Indigenous)
-Johnny Damon [NY Yankees] (Asian/White)
-Kim Basinger (White/Indigenous)
-Cher (White/Indigenous)
-Carmen Electra (White/Indigenous)
-Shannon Elizabeth (White/Indigenous, possible/most likely Black down the lineage due to Middle Eastern [Lebanon/Syria] decent)
-Brett Favre (White/Indigenous)
-Vanessa Anne Hudgens (White/Indigenous/Black/Asian)
-Enrique Iglesias (White/Asian)
-Shakira (White/Black/Indigenous)
-Adriana Lima (White/Black/Indigenous)
-Soledad O’Brien (White/Black/Indegenous)
-Bob Marley (White/Black)
-Stacy Dash (White/Black/Indigenous)
-Faith Evans (Black/Indigenous)

That's just a few to blow everything you thought you knew about race out the water.
Mariah Carey too. She's white, black and brown.
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Old 01-03-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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most people seem have lots of different blood and that is a good thing in my opinion.
I agree, diversity is overrated.

But seriously, what is wrong with having people of different races and cultures? I find it makes the world a rich and exciting place.
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