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Old 09-08-2011, 12:31 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/08/us...%20rico&st=cse
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In a blistering condemnation of the second-largest police force in the United States, the Justice Department is accusing the Puerto Rico Police Department of a “profound” and “longstanding” pattern of civil rights violations and other illegal practices that have left it “broken in a number of critical and fundamental respects.”

In a 116-page report that officials intend to make public Thursday, the civil rights division of the Justice Department accused the Puerto Rico Police Department of systematically “using force, including deadly force, when no force or lesser force was called for,” unnecessarily injuring hundreds of people and killing “numerous others.”

The report, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times, says the 17,000-officer force routinely conducts illegal searches and seizures without warrants. It accuses the force of a pattern of attacking nonviolent protesters and journalists in a manner “designed to suppress the exercise of protected First Amendment rights.”
So, how about appointing a non Puerto Rican as superintendent of the Puerto Rico Police Dept? They clearly need outside leadership not related to island politics. Appointing non natives to head the police is standard practice in the British, French, Dutch, and Danish territories.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Puerto Rico
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Treat PR like Iraq..take out the local goverment (not killing them of course) and put someone new in there and show them how to run it the right way.
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Old 09-10-2011, 06:31 AM
 
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Here's an article with some more details.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/08/us...me&ref=general
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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Here's an article with some more details.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/08/us...me&ref=general
Sorry for a repeat post, missed the link above from the OP.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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Treat PR like Iraq..take out the local goverment (not killing them of course) and put someone new in there and show them how to run it the right way.
Sometimes I wish Puerto Rico had a similar relationship to the U.S. that Britain's Overseas Territories have. Mostly in the way of throwing out the entire state level government if it's grossly corrupt and incompetent. The British monarchy did this to the Turks and Caicos Islands and the state level office of Premier/Governor is still suspended.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Sometimes I wish Puerto Rico had a similar relationship to the U.S. that Britain's Overseas Territories have. Mostly in the way of throwing out the entire state level government if it's grossly corrupt and incompetent. The British monarchy did this to the Turks and Caicos Islands and the state level office of Premier/Governor is still suspended.
Agreed. I have always advocated moving towards a similar system. The British seem to be more hands off than we are on a day to day basis, but are usually much quicker to get involved when it comes to corruption and mismanagement. In the Turks & Caicos though it was the local legislature and premier who were suspended. The Governor remains and shares control with an advisory body made up of local residents. The British hope to hold elections in 2012 but they are afraid that the last bunch of crooks will just run again and go back to their old games This is a recurring problem in British Overseas Territories, every few years another territory has a bunch of crooks in the legislature who steal, cheat, or commit other offenses. It looks like Anguilla is headed for direct rule as well.

The thing is though is that the British overseas territory governors are appointed by the Queen on the advice of the British government, we did away with presidential appointed governors in all US territories by the 1970s. Another difference is that the position is largely ceremonial - the British government only controls defense, foreign affairs, citizenship, the overall annual budget, the courts, the civil service, prisons, and policing/internal security otherwise the BOTs are largely self governing especially the larger territories like Bermuda or the Cayman Islands.
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Puerto Rico
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Sometimes I wish Puerto Rico had a similar relationship to the U.S. that Britain's Overseas Territories have. Mostly in the way of throwing out the entire state level government if it's grossly corrupt and incompetent. The British monarchy did this to the Turks and Caicos Islands and the state level office of Premier/Governor is still suspended.
Wow. I live in PR and you won't believe how I would love the US to do just that. Let's face it, those with power now don't know jack about what they are doing.
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