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Old 07-17-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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There is a marked difference in the attitude and appreciation for human life that I don't think you understand. There is a contingent in the Islands that will shoot you in the face just to prove a point. Or to take your watch or wallet. They shoot each other over "disrespect" almost weekly. For a population on the order of 110,000, the V.I. has one of the highest murder rates in the world, and for 2010 it had the highest. It ain't Long Island by a long shot, but people have been hacked up with a machete just walking on the beach. 97.5% of the violent crime is over "disrespect", though. Way different thought process in place when someone in the V.I. pulls a gun than on Long Island. But like I said, we never had a problem. People like you that think you've got it all figured before you get to the V.I. are often the ones that end up getting into trouble.
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Old 07-23-2014, 02:22 PM
 
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ambrichard is very flippant to our crime situation. it is nothing to make light of.

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Old 07-23-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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12 year old shot in the leg on St. Thomas yesterday. A 19 year old executed on the Highway on St. Croix the other night. Peel through the virgin islands daily news .com or stthomassource . com ? Kettle?

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Old 07-24-2014, 06:56 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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... but people have been hacked up with a machete just walking on the beach.
One such case, 26 years ago.
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Old 07-25-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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Yup. O.K. Let's once again get into your minimization of the murderous culture and total lack of appreciation for human life by a large segment of the V.I. population. What are we up to this year thus far? Approaching
30? (That's 30 out of 110,000 population, maybe less than 110,000 with the recent exodus due to Hovensa closure). Will we beat the world record of 2010 for highest murder rate jurisdiction in the world? The reason I mentioned the machete thing, and not because the murdered was a close friend of a very good friend in Red Hook, was the guy was recently in the news for grabbing and throttling a BOP guard down at Golden Grove. I wouldn't be surprised if the parole board lets him out.

To all other readers of these posts, we, personally, never had a problem in the V.I. with the exception of police crap. And she's doing 10 years for corruption. However, comparatively speaking, it is a very dangerous jurisdiction if you don't know your way around. I still have the Police Commissioner and several Federal agents on speeddial on my phone.
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Old 07-25-2014, 01:00 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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And again your talent for hyperbole is quite remarkable.
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Old 07-25-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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You're not going to sucker me into stating the obvious. How many murders in Smith Bay alone over the last 10 years? There is no hyperbole, and I am resisting pointing out . . . never mind. Not worth it. People should do their own research. It's a very dangerous jurisdiction if you don't know your way around. I've seen bodies on the ground next to the dumpster and up by El Cubano in Smith Bay on the way to work or to the boatyard in the morning. Hyperbole, or are you just calloused to reality? Please don't respond. I'll drop this discussion right now if you will.
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Old 07-26-2014, 01:44 AM
 
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I have had so many, many people tell me over the years that most of the crime in the Virgin Islands is or (could be) racially motivated. I have heard that the afro-carribean natives or West Indians literally hate the Caucasian-Americans that move there from the states; and therefore they are targeted. I would really like to know if it appears that "white Americans" are targeted in these many crimes or, if it seems these are crimes of opportunity affecting all racial groups.
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Old 07-26-2014, 08:02 AM
 
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No, generally not targeted. Same idea as anywhere, crimes of opportunity, wrong place, wrong time. Tourists going into the wrong neighborhood. We never had any problem. Much of the crime flows from government corruption and the attitude of abject entitlement that pervades the islands. Most violent crime is revenge or disrespect. Some of the old natives of St. Thomas, St. Croix and St. John have told me over the years that cable TV changed everything. Especially MTV and "rap", along with the gold chains and thug life attitude, which brings guns and an utter disregard for human life.
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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You're not going to sucker me into stating the obvious. How many murders in Smith Bay alone over the last 10 years? There is no hyperbole, and I am resisting pointing out . . . never mind. Not worth it. People should do their own research. It's a very dangerous jurisdiction if you don't know your way around. I've seen bodies on the ground next to the dumpster and up by El Cubano in Smith Bay on the way to work or to the boatyard in the morning. Hyperbole, or are you just calloused to reality? Please don't respond. I'll drop this discussion right now if you will.
I agree smith Bay is "not nice". For many decades Smith Bay has been hot spot of drug dealing, dog fighting, prositution, etc. When the 14 yeraold girl (visiting from cruise ship) was caught in gang cross fire, I thought that finally the local VI goverment would take some action toward improvement. What did they do? built new bath rooms at the public beach. Four years later and no change in drug gang violence. Just last month another father, driving with three teens int he car, was hit by a stray and died on side of the road in Smith Bay.

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