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Old 03-23-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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What are the chances of Puerto Rico becoming a state and will it ever happen or will our base in the carribean never get to be a state?

 
Old 03-23-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I think you might be....azotando un caballo muerto
 
Old 03-23-2013, 12:53 PM
 
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In other words chancing are very very low
 
Old 03-23-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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No, what he's saying is that a "Search" would show that a lot of fact and opinion about statehood for Puerto Rico has been posted on the forum and that you're beating a dead horse. Statehood for PR has never been closer.
 
Old 03-23-2013, 01:12 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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It depends, does the Republican Party want to keep being known as "The Stupid Party" of rich, old White men living as if it were still the 1950s?

I personally think it stands a much better chance than many people think ... especially given that the Republican Party wants to gain a more 'inclusive' image. Will there be idiots in the Republican Party that oppose it just because they think anyone who speaks Spanish is the same as a Mexican? Sure but there are also many Republicans who support statehood for Puerto Rico (Marco Rubio, Eric Cantor, Don Young, etc).

Remember, the Puerto Rico Democracy Act of 2010 which called for a Federally sanctioned binding referendum offering the 3 valid status options of statehood, the current territory status, or independence was approved by the House by 223-169 ... a more than comfortable margin.

Congress has never said they cannot become a state but rather the debate tends to focus on the level of support within Puerto Rico. Not to mention that it's impossible to have a fair referendum because the pro-colony PPD living in fantasy land claiming that the commonwealth is not a territory subject to the Territorial Clause of the US Constitution. The PPD believes Puerto Rico has a special status that is neither a state nor a territory but directly and permanently part of the United States under a "bilateral pact".
 
Old 03-23-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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So the PPD refuses the wish of the people and congress is to lazy to care
 
Old 03-23-2013, 06:45 PM
 
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I think most people in the current 50 states expect PR to be admitted to the union because they (PR residents) choose statehood in thier election on that issue. The congress is painfully slow, US goverment is painfully slow but I do believe it is going to happen in the next few years. I dont see any reason language preference should get in the way. PR as a state will keep its spanish language and complications involved in a US state being spanish speaking will be worked out. As far as politics go, I am a conservative myself so I dont relish seing PR go to the wrong side. Its a great opportunity for the republican party to show all the spanish speaking people of the US that they have more in common with conservative republicans than they do liberal democrats. Most hispanics ive met are very religious people, most are very hard workers. Religous people and working people should be conservatives, I cannot see why they would allign themselves with social progressives and socialists. I have always thought they SHOULD be natural conservatives, but who knows these days with the nation shifting left. One thing is for sure, offending these folks is suicide for republicans. They want to be a state according to the election last year, the people have spoken so they should be admitted to the union ASAP. It is the American way.
 
Old 03-23-2013, 06:55 PM
 
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That is true.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 02:46 PM
 
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Requesting a lock
 
Old 03-29-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by danielj72 View Post
I think most people in the current 50 states expect PR to be admitted to the union because they (PR residents) choose statehood in thier election on that issue. The congress is painfully slow, US goverment is painfully slow but I do believe it is going to happen in the next few years. I dont see any reason language preference should get in the way. PR as a state will keep its spanish language and complications involved in a US state being spanish speaking will be worked out. As far as politics go, I am a conservative myself so I dont relish seing PR go to the wrong side. Its a great opportunity for the republican party to show all the spanish speaking people of the US that they have more in common with conservative republicans than they do liberal democrats. Most hispanics ive met are very religious people, most are very hard workers. Religous people and working people should be conservatives, I cannot see why they would allign themselves with social progressives and socialists. I have always thought they SHOULD be natural conservatives, but who knows these days with the nation shifting left. One thing is for sure, offending these folks is suicide for republicans. They want to be a state according to the election last year, the people have spoken so they should be admitted to the union ASAP. It is the American way.

The majority did not vote for statehood. Congress will not act on it, as it is apparent the last referendum has done nothing to further the statehood cause. Congress won't even bother for years. Maybe if you get 80% support among the general population in a direct vote for statehood, and not the convoluted two step vote they rigged the system with last November.
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